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  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

    So there you have proven it !



    And so have I !
    How did my post get changed?I didn't say anything about immunizations. Conservatives wouldn't go for them the right approach is to pray to god for a cure. Right?

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    • Originally posted by redrover View Post
      How did my post get changed?I didn't say anything about immunizations. Conservatives wouldn't go for them the right approach is to pray to god for a cure. Right?
      I can make up cool stories and assign honor, guilt or blame to who-ever I want too LOL

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      • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        I can make up cool stories and assign honor, guilt or blame to who-ever I want too LOL
        I know you can I've seen you demonstrate that ability many times but usually with lots of help from the American thinker. I'm still trying to understand why you hate progress so much. We know you don't favor the progressive income tax preferring to give the rich a free ride. because unlike the rest of they don't waste their money on booze women and movies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howeeuFwThQ

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        • Originally posted by redrover View Post
          I know you can I've seen you demonstrate that ability many times but usually with lots of help from the American thinker. I'm still trying to understand why you hate progress so much. We know you don't favor the progressive income tax preferring to give the rich a free ride. because unlike the rest of they don't waste their money on booze women and movies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howeeuFwThQ
          I know how much you love American Thinker. I'll bring you good articles from them as often as I can.

          As for "progress," it is a word that has very different meanings to different people and in different situations. You think I "hate" it, I think you're having trouble with words and definitions...

          Again

          It's a pretty dumb word to think that people will automatically think positive of you by uttering it.

          "We're progressive !"

          Uh oh...

          Bank robberies, murders, wars and rapes are events that are progressive in how they are carried out. Events progress one event to the next. Everyone has their own idea of what "progress" is. Osama Bin Ladle* did, Hitler did, so did Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George Bush.

          Bragging about being "progressive" is meaningless noise LOL

          Asking me why I "hate progress.." ?? ....Some progress is worth hating ! Only fools can't see this.

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          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            I know how much you love American Thinker. I'll bring you good articles from them as often as I can.

            As for "progress," it is a word that has very different meanings to different people and in different situations. You think I "hate" it, I think you're having trouble with words and definitions...

            Again

            It's a pretty dumb word to think that people will automatically think positive of you by uttering it.

            "We're progressive !"

            Uh oh...

            Bank robberies, murders, wars and rapes are events that are progressive in how they are carried out. Events progress one event to the next. Everyone has their own idea of what "progress" is. Osama Bin Ladle* did, Hitler did, so did Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George Bush.

            Bragging about being "progressive" is meaningless noise LOL

            Asking me why I "hate progress.." ?? ....Some progress is worth hating ! Only fools can't see this.
            Using your logic we could do this to any word. Take the word "good "which under your definition means I sure did a good job of raping that woman. I must be a real do-gooder. If you will admit that rape falls outside of the definition of progressive I will admit that also falls outside the definition of goodness.

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            • Originally posted by redrover View Post
              Using your logic we could do this to any word. Take the word "good "which under your definition means I sure did a good job of raping that woman. I must be a real do-gooder. If you will admit that rape falls outside of the definition of progressive I will admit that also falls outside the definition of goodness.
              Assigning the value of good to a word that isn't, by definition "good," is foolishness and a word game.

              Progress isn't by definition good any more than rape is LOL

              Yet "progressives" want to sell us their twisted ideas as good just because they're "progressive."

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              • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                Assigning the value of good to a word that isn't, by definition "good," is foolishness and a word game.

                Progress isn't by definition good any more than rape is LOL

                Yet "progressives" want to sell us their twisted ideas as good just because they're "progressive."
                Now you are on the right track. As a political forum we should limit the discussion to the word progressive to it's meaning within the political context. Maybe you can flesh out what you mean by twisted ideas. Do mean progressive laws like child labor laws?Probably not. I can only guess. Environmental regulations? giving blacks and women the vote?Minimum wage? I'm tired of guessing which progressive ideas are twisted?

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                • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                  Now you are on the right track. As a political forum we should limit the discussion to the word progressive to it's meaning within the political context. Maybe you can flesh out what you mean by twisted ideas. Do mean progressive laws like child labor laws?Probably not. I can only guess. Environmental regulations? giving blacks and women the vote?Minimum wage? I'm tired of guessing which progressive ideas are twisted?
                  Stop guessing ! Twisted is the name of the game with "progressives."

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                  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Stop guessing ! Twisted is the name of the game with "progressives."
                    So according to you all those progressive achievements are twisted? So what's the deal? you wanted your kids to get a good job in the coal mine so you could hang out at the pool hall all day?

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                    • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      So according to you all those progressive achievements are twisted? So what's the deal? you wanted your kids to get a good job in the coal mine so you could hang out at the pool hall all day?
                      Of course ! Don't YOU ??

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                      • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                        Of course ! Don't YOU ??
                        I can understand that there are people like yourself who think the progressive agenda is wrongheaded, but Where does the hate come in?I know the progressives who railroaded in child labor laws hated seeing little children losing hands and arms in industrial machines.

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                        • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          I can understand that there are people like yourself who think the progressive agenda is wrongheaded, but Where does the hate come in?I know the progressives who railroaded in child labor laws hated seeing little children losing hands and arms in industrial machines.

                          I don't know why or when exactly progressives became so nasty & hateful.

                          Maybe when they saw that not everybody wanted to join them in their denials of the existence of evil.

                          EXCEPT for those who oppose leftists/progressives of course. THERE ! ...they will say is evil.

                          Data and facts that oppose what progressives believe will be ignored, laughed at, denigrated etc. people that oppose progressives will be called names, even called evil !

                          Which takes us right back to the nasty lies, the outrageous word games progressives play to try to fool us into accepting things that are obviously unacceptable.

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                          Because leftism is a faith-based but God-rejecting belief system, it doesn't matter to leftists that gun control has been tried and has failed. Facts will not stand in the way of leftists' emotional belief.

                          Leftists have a bizarre attitude toward murderers, rapists, and drug-dealers because leftists believe that criminals aren't really evil or responsible for their actions. Rather, leftists argue that societal pressures, poor upbringing, etc. are the cause of crime even though this flies in the face of the reality that most people who suffer from the problems that leftists cite as causing crime don't become criminals. During the Rodney King riots in L.A., for example, most poor blacks didn't loot stores or beat up white people. Yet they all had the same social disadvantages.

                          The result of leftists' denial of criminals being evil is that leftists support policies that hurt law-abiding citizens. Leftists say there are too many blacks in prison and want to limit the number of blacks who are incarcerated no matter how many blacks commit crimes. But the reality is that the victims of black criminals, who are overwhelmingly black themselves, say the criminal who attacked them were black, which means that the idea that blacks are more likely to commit crimes is not from some redneck white racist, but from the black victims crying out for justice and safety.


                          Leftist belief in the underlying goodness of criminals is why leftists can be mad that so many people are in jail but not happy that crime rates have gone down after all, to leftists, pretty much everyone in prison is just a victim of a poor upbringing or other factors over which he had no control. In leftist land, no evil man actually chooses to commit a crime.

                          There are other leftist policies that hinge on the idea that there are no real evil people, but these examples should suffice to show the corrosive impact of the leftist's denial of the reality of evil on the American people.

                          Interestingly enough, as alluded to above, leftists do believe that a certain class of people are uniformly evil and uniquely culpable for all their actions namely anyone who opposes leftists.

                          Because the highest goal, the unspoken moral imperative, of all leftists is total and complete control over everyone, and because to leftists all leftist beliefs are self-evidently true, they believe that whoever opposes them is evil incarnate.

                          Contrast leftist views on what leftists call "hate" speech directed at Muslims and the attacks on Candace Owens and Kanye West. Since Muslims can't be evil, leftists condemn anyone who brings up the truth about the beliefs of radical Muslims. On the other hand, when blacks espouse beliefs that leftists reject, such as the right to free speech or the right of blacks to hold differing opinions, leftists engage in the most vile, hateful rhetoric, because in their hearts, leftists believe that their opinions are the only good ones and that anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

                          One can't dissent from leftist orthodoxy and be good, but one can dissent from anything else, including the idea that Muslims shouldn't murder non-Muslims, and still be a paragon of moral virtue in the eyes of leftists.

                          When talking with friends who support leftist positions on North Korea, Iran, criminals, etc., point out to them that there are evil people in the world. Equate those evil men with bullies, since leftists also feel comfortable condemning bullies, and ask if we should treat the "bullies" in North Korea and Iran the same way we treat the good people in France or if we should use force and threats to get them to stop, just as leftists say we should use societal pressure and school punishments to stop bullying.




                          https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ying_evil.html

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                          • Progressives get mad and act hateful and stupid when their ideas are attacked. They get dangerously foolish.

                            This exposes them for what they really are, people who try to sell evil as good ! ....dangerous extremists who want no opposition, will TOLERATE no opposition... evil doesn't allow opposition, it never has.

                            This has helped bring awareness & interest to everybody about what today's progressives really stand for. It has helped educate.

                            The crazier and more hateful progressives get, the better it is

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                            Within a few months of its release, The Marketing of Evil became the focal point of a national scandal when several openly homosexual professors at Ohio State University brought sexual harassment charges against head librarian Scott Savage, a Christian, after he recommended The Marketing of Evil as required reading for all incoming freshmen. The gay profs maintained that merely recommending the book constituted an act of harassment due to sexual orientation.

                            The rest of the faculty members were so intimidated by the angry gay professors that they voted in agreement with them. It was so obviously bizarre and unjust that major media exposure by Sean Hannity, Brit Hume on Foxs Special Report, MSNBC, the New York Post, Human Events and many others plus stout legal pressure from the Alliance Defending Freedom caused the university to cave in and drop the insane charges.

                            ...

                            As a direct consequence of being publicly branded as hate literature and homophobic tripe by the Ohio State University faculty, The Marketing of Evil immediately became one of the hottest-selling books in the country, topping Amazons daily Current Events bestseller chart for more than a week.

                            As a result of such notoriety, The Marketing of Evil eventually lit a fire in a place where it was more welcome the nations churches. From small-town churches and prayer groups to one of Americas largest Presbyterian congregations, Christian leaders and laymen started getting hold of the book, sometimes by the case, to hand out to fellow churchgoers.

                            In addition, renowned Bible teacher Kay Arthur, host of the nationally televised program Precepts for Life, has often urged her listeners to read The Marketing of Evil, as well as its sequel How Evil Works and my most recent book The Snapping of the American Mind, quoting extensively from them during her presentations.



                            http://www.wnd.com/2018/05/new-marke...or-despicable/

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                            • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post


                              I don't know why or when exactly progressives became so nasty & hateful.

                              Maybe when they saw that not everybody wanted to join them in their denials of the existence of evil.

                              EXCEPT for those who oppose leftists/progressives of course. THERE ! ...they will say is evil.

                              Data and facts that oppose what progressives believe will be ignored, laughed at, denigrated etc. people that oppose progressives will be called names, even called evil !

                              Which takes us right back to the nasty lies, the outrageous word games progressives play to try to fool us into accepting things that are obviously unacceptable.

                              ----------------------------------------------------------------------


                              Because leftism is a faith-based but God-rejecting belief system, it doesn't matter to leftists that gun control has been tried and has failed. Facts will not stand in the way of leftists' emotional belief.

                              Leftists have a bizarre attitude toward murderers, rapists, and drug-dealers because leftists believe that criminals aren't really evil or responsible for their actions. Rather, leftists argue that societal pressures, poor upbringing, etc. are the cause of crime even though this flies in the face of the reality that most people who suffer from the problems that leftists cite as causing crime don't become criminals. During the Rodney King riots in L.A., for example, most poor blacks didn't loot stores or beat up white people. Yet they all had the same social disadvantages.

                              The result of leftists' denial of criminals being evil is that leftists support policies that hurt law-abiding citizens. Leftists say there are too many blacks in prison and want to limit the number of blacks who are incarcerated no matter how many blacks commit crimes. But the reality is that the victims of black criminals, who are overwhelmingly black themselves, say the criminal who attacked them were black, which means that the idea that blacks are more likely to commit crimes is not from some redneck white racist, but from the black victims crying out for justice and safety.


                              Leftist belief in the underlying goodness of criminals is why leftists can be mad that so many people are in jail but not happy that crime rates have gone down after all, to leftists, pretty much everyone in prison is just a victim of a poor upbringing or other factors over which he had no control. In leftist land, no evil man actually chooses to commit a crime.

                              There are other leftist policies that hinge on the idea that there are no real evil people, but these examples should suffice to show the corrosive impact of the leftist's denial of the reality of evil on the American people.

                              Interestingly enough, as alluded to above, leftists do believe that a certain class of people are uniformly evil and uniquely culpable for all their actions namely anyone who opposes leftists.

                              Because the highest goal, the unspoken moral imperative, of all leftists is total and complete control over everyone, and because to leftists all leftist beliefs are self-evidently true, they believe that whoever opposes them is evil incarnate.

                              Contrast leftist views on what leftists call "hate" speech directed at Muslims and the attacks on Candace Owens and Kanye West. Since Muslims can't be evil, leftists condemn anyone who brings up the truth about the beliefs of radical Muslims. On the other hand, when blacks espouse beliefs that leftists reject, such as the right to free speech or the right of blacks to hold differing opinions, leftists engage in the most vile, hateful rhetoric, because in their hearts, leftists believe that their opinions are the only good ones and that anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

                              One can't dissent from leftist orthodoxy and be good, but one can dissent from anything else, including the idea that Muslims shouldn't murder non-Muslims, and still be a paragon of moral virtue in the eyes of leftists.

                              When talking with friends who support leftist positions on North Korea, Iran, criminals, etc., point out to them that there are evil people in the world. Equate those evil men with bullies, since leftists also feel comfortable condemning bullies, and ask if we should treat the "bullies" in North Korea and Iran the same way we treat the good people in France or if we should use force and threats to get them to stop, just as leftists say we should use societal pressure and school punishments to stop bullying.




                              https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ying_evil.html
                              You make your usual mistake of lumping all progressives into one monolithic political movement. Maybe the same way I lump all Christians with the in-Christian right wing. at one time Christians were on the cutting edge of the progressive movement. Even today there are some around who believe offering asylum to women and children fleeing violence in Central America is the Christian thing to do. Obviously they aren't reading the American thinker. They waste their time reading stuff like this. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141...-matthew-25-40

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