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  • Progressive Hate

    Progressive hate.. and it is hate.

    The language games played on us are motivated by hate.

    If they weren't motivated by hate, these dishonest redefinition's and word games wouldn't be used to silence people. Wouldn't be used to shut down debate.

    Medical care has turned into "healthcare."

    Murder has turned into "a womans right to choose" AND "gun violence."

    "Man caused global warming" has turned into "climate change."

    Christians are "haters." Caucasian people are "neo nazis." Trump voters are "racists."....

    This is very clever and has worked very well. More are seeing it for what it is though.

    People motivated by hatred accusing other people they don't agree with of hate !

    And it's working because we've accepted the lies and manipulations they've played on us with their word games.

    It's time for that to end.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    How the Loud Left Hijacked Hate

    One of the most insidious impacts of the progressive movement of the last 20 years is the way the voices of the liberal left have imposed politically correct language on the American public by creating new meanings for old words.

    For example, in an attempt to quash reasoned dialogue on important cultural and moral issues, the misuse of the word "hate" has worked very well for the left against conservative Christians. Most Americans especially Christians recoil at the idea of hating people. Rightfully so. Therefore, if one can establish hate as the motive for opposing a particular issue or behavior, it sabotages any real debate. End of discussion.

    The progressive parade is crowded with societal movers and shakers. They control much of our culture media, education, entertainment, business, and government. The legions are led by a fervent few, religious zealots in their own right.

    Their religion is called secular humanism. For them, man is god, and there is no higher power to answer to. They reject Christianity and the morality of the Bible unless they can co-opt and twist it to further their own agenda. Their goal? To crush Christianity and rob it of its historical and traditional impact on our nation.

    And it is working within and without the church.

    Lets look at how progressives use the concept of hate against Christians. Think about this for a moment. The idea of hate has no meaningful context outside a biblical one. In other words, if God doesnt exist to reward and punish, what difference does it make if I hate someone? Why is it wrong? Its wrong because there is a God, and He defines love and hate.

    In fact, God has charged His followers to spread the word that He loves all people and calls them to turn away from their sin and seek Him. When we do this, however, we almost always run into conflict with the progressives rejection of God and His standards.

    For example, when it comes to human sexuality, progressives have done a masterful job of seemingly turning Christianity against Christians. How? By convincing the general public and even many Christians that to speak against homosexuality or transgenderism is in fact hateful. Thus, Christians must be haters, even though their Bible and their creeds teach love. Its akin to saying that because Christians believe drunkenness is a sin, we, therefore, hate the person who is drunk. The teaching of hate the sin but love the sinner is not allowed by the progressives.

    One illustration of this is North Carolinas HB 2, which simply states that on government property, one must use the restrooms, showers, and changing areas that match ones biological sex. Progressives immediately denounced and declared it a hate bill. End of debate.

    Then there are many stories of businesses owned by Christians being told they must participate in homosexual wedding ceremonies or be closed down. Those Christian business owners were motivated by hate, said the progressives. End of discussion.

    In Mississippi, where I live, the legislature passed, and the governor signed, a law protecting people of faith from being forced to participate in homosexual weddings. That law, according to the progressives, is a sign of hatred toward lesbians and gays.

    Its hard to fight back against a barrage of lies when theyre repeated 24/7 by the liberal media, and when well-funded LGBTQ activist groups pound on the doors of politicians and corporate executives demanding support and promising punishment if they dare side with those hate-filled Christians.

    Unfortunately, many weak-kneed Christians quickly fold on this issue. They either distance themselves from their fellow Christians or they go silent. In either case, its shameful and cowardly.


    The Bible is clear that the act of homosexuality is a sin. That has been the teaching of the church for 2,000 years. But subscribing to this teaching today, according to progressives, is unacceptable in this new world they are attempting to create. A world without the Christian God, but rather man, as supreme.

    The truth: Christians do not hate lesbians, gays, or transgendered people. And without Christians, America would be a much meaner, much uglier place to live. American Family Association has never advocated hate for anyone, nor have we ever said anything but that God loves sinners and calls us all to repentance.


    But we refuse to call right wrong or wrong right, and we will continue to stand on the Word of God and proclaim the truth therein.

    End of debate.


    https://www.afa.net/the-stand/cultur...hijacked-hate/

    ================================================== =============================

    ...theres a war on for Americas mind, heart and soul and we are reaching a crisis point, a tipping point, from which there may be no return for truly free expression.

    Americas universities employ speech codes that would make North Korea blush. Little children are being indoctrinated from the earliest age in government schools that this nations heroic founders were no more than racist, misogynist, imperialist oppressors of the poor and downtrodden. Hollywood and the Big Media besiege Americans with one narrow worldview, treating with utter contempt liberty lovers and followers of the God of Creation.

    ...the Digital Content Cartel, that sees the world much like those other powerful cultural institutions, is in near total, hammerlock control of the means of distribution of news and information on the internet because they control more than 90 percent of the advertising revenue, search engine power and technical infrastructure that is necessary to reach massive audiences effectively.

    Never before have so few controlled so much debate.

    Were in danger of losing the essential components of a free society including the right to shout out in loud voices that cannot be stifled that we are losing our legacy of liberty.


    http://www.wnd.com/2018/03/never-bef...o-much-debate/

  • #2
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Progressive hate.. and it is hate.

    The language games played on us are motivated by hate.

    If they weren't motivated by hate, these dishonest redefinition's and word games wouldn't be used to silence people. Wouldn't be used to shut down debate.

    Medical care has turned into "healthcare."

    Murder has turned into "a womans right to choose" AND "gun violence."

    "Man caused global warming" has turned into "climate change."

    Christians are "haters." Caucasian people are "neo nazis." Trump voters are "racists."....

    This is very clever and has worked very well. More are seeing it for what it is though.

    People motivated by hatred accusing other people they don't agree with of hate !

    And it's working because we've accepted the lies and manipulations they've played on us with their word games.

    It's time for that to end.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    How the Loud Left Hijacked Hate

    One of the most insidious impacts of the progressive movement of the last 20 years is the way the voices of the liberal left have imposed politically correct language on the American public by creating new meanings for old words.

    For example, in an attempt to quash reasoned dialogue on important cultural and moral issues, the misuse of the word "hate" has worked very well for the left against conservative Christians. Most Americans especially Christians recoil at the idea of hating people. Rightfully so. Therefore, if one can establish hate as the motive for opposing a particular issue or behavior, it sabotages any real debate. End of discussion.

    The progressive parade is crowded with societal movers and shakers. They control much of our culture media, education, entertainment, business, and government. The legions are led by a fervent few, religious zealots in their own right.

    Their religion is called secular humanism. For them, man is god, and there is no higher power to answer to. They reject Christianity and the morality of the Bible unless they can co-opt and twist it to further their own agenda. Their goal? To crush Christianity and rob it of its historical and traditional impact on our nation.

    And it is working within and without the church.

    Lets look at how progressives use the concept of hate against Christians. Think about this for a moment. The idea of hate has no meaningful context outside a biblical one. In other words, if God doesnt exist to reward and punish, what difference does it make if I hate someone? Why is it wrong? Its wrong because there is a God, and He defines love and hate.

    In fact, God has charged His followers to spread the word that He loves all people and calls them to turn away from their sin and seek Him. When we do this, however, we almost always run into conflict with the progressives rejection of God and His standards.

    For example, when it comes to human sexuality, progressives have done a masterful job of seemingly turning Christianity against Christians. How? By convincing the general public and even many Christians that to speak against homosexuality or transgenderism is in fact hateful. Thus, Christians must be haters, even though their Bible and their creeds teach love. Its akin to saying that because Christians believe drunkenness is a sin, we, therefore, hate the person who is drunk. The teaching of hate the sin but love the sinner is not allowed by the progressives.

    One illustration of this is North Carolinas HB 2, which simply states that on government property, one must use the restrooms, showers, and changing areas that match ones biological sex. Progressives immediately denounced and declared it a hate bill. End of debate.

    Then there are many stories of businesses owned by Christians being told they must participate in homosexual wedding ceremonies or be closed down. Those Christian business owners were motivated by hate, said the progressives. End of discussion.

    In Mississippi, where I live, the legislature passed, and the governor signed, a law protecting people of faith from being forced to participate in homosexual weddings. That law, according to the progressives, is a sign of hatred toward lesbians and gays.

    Its hard to fight back against a barrage of lies when theyre repeated 24/7 by the liberal media, and when well-funded LGBTQ activist groups pound on the doors of politicians and corporate executives demanding support and promising punishment if they dare side with those hate-filled Christians.

    Unfortunately, many weak-kneed Christians quickly fold on this issue. They either distance themselves from their fellow Christians or they go silent. In either case, its shameful and cowardly.


    The Bible is clear that the act of homosexuality is a sin. That has been the teaching of the church for 2,000 years. But subscribing to this teaching today, according to progressives, is unacceptable in this new world they are attempting to create. A world without the Christian God, but rather man, as supreme.

    The truth: Christians do not hate lesbians, gays, or transgendered people. And without Christians, America would be a much meaner, much uglier place to live. American Family Association has never advocated hate for anyone, nor have we ever said anything but that God loves sinners and calls us all to repentance.


    But we refuse to call right wrong or wrong right, and we will continue to stand on the Word of God and proclaim the truth therein.

    End of debate.


    https://www.afa.net/the-stand/cultur...hijacked-hate/

    ================================================== =============================

    ...theres a war on for Americas mind, heart and soul and we are reaching a crisis point, a tipping point, from which there may be no return for truly free expression.

    Americas universities employ speech codes that would make North Korea blush. Little children are being indoctrinated from the earliest age in government schools that this nations heroic founders were no more than racist, misogynist, imperialist oppressors of the poor and downtrodden. Hollywood and the Big Media besiege Americans with one narrow worldview, treating with utter contempt liberty lovers and followers of the God of Creation.

    ...the Digital Content Cartel, that sees the world much like those other powerful cultural institutions, is in near total, hammerlock control of the means of distribution of news and information on the internet because they control more than 90 percent of the advertising revenue, search engine power and technical infrastructure that is necessary to reach massive audiences effectively.

    Never before have so few controlled so much debate.

    Were in danger of losing the essential components of a free society including the right to shout out in loud voices that cannot be stifled that we are losing our legacy of liberty.


    http://www.wnd.com/2018/03/never-bef...o-much-debate/
    Here is the definition of progressive.
    relating to, or constituting a verb form that expresses action or state in progress at the time of speaking or a time spoken of/. Why are you so opposed to progress?

    ?


    • #3
      Originally posted by redrover View Post
      Here is the definition of progressive.
      relating to, or constituting a verb form that expresses action or state in progress at the time of speaking or a time spoken of/. Why are you so opposed to progress?
      I'll take note that your definition, in no way even implies that progress is good, just that progress is an expression of an action or state in progress.

      "As a small piece of lead left the firearm after the trigger was pulled by Fred, it progressed at a rapid speed toward Joes head. Upon reaching Joes head, it progressed through his cranium destroying his brain, thereby killing Joe.


      Describing progress of a certain type. The progress of a small piece of lead.

      So we see that progress isn't, by definition, something good. It is only descriptive of "change," which also isn't by definition, something good.

      I am not opposed to progress or change.

      I AM opposed to things that are negative, things that hurt people.

      Calling things that hurt people, or things that are negative "progress," is just another example of the word games played by progressive liberals wanting to sell us their bad ideas based on hate for the country they live in.

      We can't escape the hatred of liberals. We can only point it out and hope they stop.

      ?


      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        I'll take note that your definition, in no way even implies that progress is good, just that progress is an expression of an action or state in progress.

        "As a small piece of lead left the firearm after the trigger was pulled by Fred, it progressed at a rapid speed toward Joes head. Upon reaching Joes head, it progressed through his cranium destroying his brain, thereby killing Joe.


        Describing progress of a certain type. The progress of a small piece of lead.

        So we see that progress isn't, by definition, something good. It is only descriptive of "change," which also isn't by definition, something good.

        I am not opposed to progress or change.

        I AM opposed to things that are negative, things that hurt people.

        Calling things that hurt people, or things that are negative "progress," is just another example of the word games played by progressive liberals wanting to sell us their bad ideas based on hate for the country they live in.

        We can't escape the hatred of liberals. We can only point it out and hope they stop.
        I know progressives stopped the good Christians from hanging witches stoning gays and owning slaves if that keeps up there will be nothing left. Cars have replaced horses how sad what next solar and wind replacing coal?If you can't handle the future and progress maybe you should join a Quaker community.

        ?


        • #5
          Originally posted by redrover View Post
          I know progressives stopped the good Christians from hanging witches stoning gays and owning slaves if that keeps up there will be nothing left. Cars have replaced horses how sad what next solar and wind replacing coal?If you can't handle the future and progress maybe you should join a Quaker community.
          Yeah, or the Amish !

          Have you ever had some of their food ? Those folks know how to cook !

          Anyways, as I said - I am not opposed to progress or change.

          I AM opposed to things that are negative, things that hurt people.


          An event progressed in Germany years ago that ended up having a lot of dead people as a result. That was progress, not good progress.

          My point being that not all progress is positive.

          It isn't positive progress if you have to tell lies about people who don't necessarily agree with you, and it isn't positive progress if you have to call people who don't necessarily agree with you names.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            Yeah, or the Amish !

            Have you ever had some of their food ? Those folks know how to cook !

            Anyways, as I said - I am not opposed to progress or change.

            I AM opposed to things that are negative, things that hurt people.


            An event progressed in Germany years ago that ended up having a lot of dead people as a result. That was progress, not good progress.

            My point being that not all progress is positive.

            It isn't positive progress if you have to tell lies about people who don't necessarily agree with you, and it isn't positive progress if you have to call people who don't necessarily agree with you names.
            You mean like calling people crooked Hillary or Lyin' Ted Cruz or Little Adam Schiff? I don't in any way agree that Hitler was a progressive. He wanted to make Germany great again by returning to it's Arian roots. A very backward looking goal. In other words he was by definition a conservative.Look into the long dead past for the answer.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              You mean like calling people crooked Hillary or Lyin' Ted Cruz or Little Adam Schiff? I don't in any way agree that Hitler was a progressive. He wanted to make Germany great again by returning to it's Arian roots. A very backward looking goal. In other words he was by definition a conservative.Look into the long dead past for the answer.
              Funny thing about that history, it always shows us what progressives are leading us too.

              It of course this is denied, even said to be where conservatives are taking us LOL

              Same methods different day *yawns*

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                Funny thing about that history, it always shows us what progressives are leading us too.

                It of course this is denied, even said to be where conservatives are taking us LOL

                Same methods different day *yawns*
                You can say air quality is getting progressively better or progressively worse. In a political context it means steering a course based on future needs and expectations. Hillary got into trouble when she refused to promise to reopen the mines and reopen the eight track factories.When a conservative gets a computer virus the first thing he does is to read the book of Proverbs for guidance then prays very hard for it to go away.I understand that change can be scary but it's going to happen anyway and it seems prudent to prepare for it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  You can say air quality is getting progressively better or progressively worse. In a political context it means steering a course based on future needs and expectations. Hillary got into trouble when she refused to promise to reopen the mines and reopen the eight track factories.When a conservative gets a computer virus the first thing he does is to read the book of Proverbs for guidance then prays very hard for it to go away.I understand that change can be scary but it's going to happen anyway and it seems prudent to prepare for it.
                  THAT was a good one LMAO

                  I'll try that when my computer crashes LOL Instead of making an image copy of my drive, or backing up all my documents on external drives, I'll read all of Proverbs and hope it fixes everything ... what a hoot LOL

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    THAT was a good one LMAO

                    I'll try that when my computer crashes LOL Instead of making an image copy of my drive, or backing up all my documents on external drives, I'll read all of Proverbs and hope it fixes everything ... what a hoot LOL
                    I think if you read American Dreamer Henry A. Wallace you would find a progressive you would find a man you could admire. He was many things a successful capitalist, a scientist, a globalist and not a nationalist but he certainly was not a hater.As a man of faith you might even be moved by his love of the common man.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      I think if you read American Dreamer Henry A. Wallace you would find a progressive you would find a man you could admire. He was many things a successful capitalist, a scientist, a globalist and not a nationalist but he certainly was not a hater.As a man of faith you might even be moved by his love of the common man.
                      Perhaps.

                      But why do I strongly suspect that what defined progressive at his time, is completely different than what defines it today ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                        Perhaps.

                        But why do I strongly suspect that what defined progressive at his time, is completely different than what defines it today ?
                        Only if the defining is done by the same people who define morality as having sex with porn stars while your wife is pregnant as long as you totally deny it? What gives you the right to identify someone as a progressive who no progressive would recognize as a progressive? You seem to operate from the belief that progressives are bad therefore every thing that is bad must be progressive. Thus Hitler must be a progressive. I will admit that I am being unfair to suggest that Trump shapes your standards of morality. Though I'm mystified by the fact that people who claim to value morality so enthusiastically embrace a creature like the Donald.I think a progressive approach is not only the best approach for govornment it is the most moral approach.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          Only if the defining is done by the same people who define morality as having sex with porn stars while your wife is pregnant as long as you totally deny it? What gives you the right to identify someone as a progressive who no progressive would recognize as a progressive? You seem to operate from the belief that progressives are bad therefore every thing that is bad must be progressive. Thus Hitler must be a progressive. I will admit that I am being unfair to suggest that Trump shapes your standards of morality. Though I'm mystified by the fact that people who claim to value morality so enthusiastically embrace a creature like the Donald.I think a progressive approach is not only the best approach for govornment it is the most moral approach.
                          I see what you're saying, you just need to recognize that the democrat/liberal/progressives do the exact same thing !

                          The same thing occurs in many Christian churches and drives people away from the faith.

                          Hypocrisy & arrogance are all round deals, everybody is guilty at times.... as well as being guilty of denying it too LOL

                          Crazy damn people

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            I see what you're saying, you just need to recognize that the democrat/liberal/progressives do the exact same thing !

                            The same thing occurs in many Christian churches and drives people away from the faith.

                            Hypocrisy & arrogance are all round deals, everybody is guilty at times.... as well as being guilty of denying it too LOL

                            Crazy damn people
                            I think there are many bad people who call themselves Christians who I would say don't fit the definition of a Christian and there are some people who claim to be progressive but are not.I think you are going to blast someone for being a progressive you should indicate the specific progressive policies that they are espousing that you don't like.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              I think there are many bad people who call themselves Christians who I would say don't fit the definition of a Christian and there are some people who claim to be progressive but are not.I think you are going to blast someone for being a progressive you should indicate the specific progressive policies that they are espousing that you don't like.
                              We do get immersed in labels.

                              Christians that don't "act Christian" - by how we imagine a Christian should or shouldn't behave.... forgetting that they're screwy people like the rest of us - and we often wish THEY would remember that too .. which makes my point.

                              Progressives acting conservative

                              Conservatives acting progressive

                              etc etc

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