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SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

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  • SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

    SOPA, the "Stop Online Piracy Act", is on the best way of becoming law in the US. The House is yet to decide on it but the proposal is a bipartisan to start with so the chances of being passed are good.

    Am I the only person who gets the chills when reading what this legislative monster is about? For some basic information have a look at the according wiki article:
    Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What are Americans thinking about it? Is it business stifling criminalizing over regulation of the internet, internet censorship not in intent but in effect like the great Chinese firewall? Or is it a necessary long overdue step to protect copyright holders from online piracy? Who supports it, who opposes it and who does not care?

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    Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

    Watch this video on SOPA, it will tell you pretty much all you need to know:

    YOUTUBE WON'T LET ME SHOW THIS VIDEO - YouTube

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      Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

      The video is very interesting. The cynical pessimist in me says that this is to crack down on internet communication in order to stop negative information against the government and being able to stop forums such as this one and blogs.


      I wonder. For many many years when I was younger I would actually record music off the radio. Back when I had a big reel to reel deck. I would then edit out the commercials and create compilations of artists.

      One of my favorite that is now on DVD was the day one radio station played every single Beatles recording that had been released including about a dozen basement tracks that at the time had never been released. I am sure those of my age group have done it. Additionally there is software available that can RIP songs from Pandora, Sirius and other streaming music stations as well as regular radio stations. There has been no reason for the last 40 years to buy records/tapes/cds with the amount that radio stations play.
      Last edited by Wlessard; 12-27-2011, 09:19 AM.

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        Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

        Originally posted by ericams2786 View Post
        Watch this video on SOPA, it will tell you pretty much all you need to know:

        YOUTUBE WON'T LET ME SHOW THIS VIDEO - YouTube
        Reminds me of the back-door way they are trying to get rid of our 2nd Amendment rights by purposefully causing a problem and then bringing about laws to "fix" the problems that they caused to begin with. So now they are taking the same tactic to start chipping away at the 1st Amendment.

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          I don't buy into a big conspiracy but it is definitely a sign of huge hypocrisy that companies like CBS first distributed the biggest file sharing softwares just to support afterwards something like SOPA. In other words they want to criminalize something they did in big style before. It's ridiculous.

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            Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

            Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
            Reminds me of the back-door way they are trying to get rid of our 2nd Amendment rights by purposefully causing a problem and then bringing about laws to "fix" the problems that they caused to begin with. So now they are taking the same tactic to start chipping away at the 1st Amendment.
            Yep, way more false flags going on than you might think, even some rather large ones...

            Our entire system is one big fascist scam.

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              Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

              Originally posted by Slartibartfas View Post
              I don't buy into a big conspiracy but it is definitely a sign of huge hypocrisy that companies like CBS first distributed the biggest file sharing softwares just to support afterwards something like SOPA. In other words they want to criminalize something they did in big style before. It's ridiculous.
              It's not a conspiracy, the guy in the video just pointed out facts. These big media companies not only created the software for piracy to occur, they actively promoted it and helped people pirate their content, then they turn around and use the piracy argument to lobby Congress to draft legislation giving the government power to control the internet to stop piracy. No conspiracy there, the government and these big corporations they are joined at the hip with do this crap all the time. Like Fishjoel mented above, think "Fast and Furious".

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                "We want porn! When do we want it? Now!" ~ That's the sign I'm taking to Washington in protest.

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                  Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                  Originally posted by ericams2786 View Post
                  Yep, way more false flags going on than you might think, even some rather large ones...

                  Our entire system is one big fascist scam.
                  Oh...I have no illusions about how often, and to what degree false flags happen.

                  Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                    Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                    SOPA is an excellent example of how US bills can become so perverted because legislators don't really understand the issues involved. I think it is clear that anti-piracy laws do need more teeth than they currently have. I also think it is clear that the usual lobbyists have had far too much influence in shaping the direction it has taken with this latest effort to do so. This isn't about drug companies absurdly restricting perfectly safe generic drugs manufactured in other advanced countries. And it isn't about turning kids in other countries into wanted felons and extraditing them to be imprisoned for years for merely providing links to pirated TV shows, an act which is actually quite legal in the UK.

                    But claiming that major US companies have been engaging in a false flag operation to turn online piracy into a major issue so the US would enact draconian laws is beyond absurd. There are a multitude of legitimate uses for peer-to-peer networking. For instance, WoW uses it to distribute updates since there are so many users.

                    When it comes to issues like this, my source of choice is the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF):

                    SOPA: Hollywood Finally Gets A Chance to Break the Internet

                    Stop Online Piracy Act: A Blacklist by Any Other Name Is Still a Blacklist

                    Who's Missing From Today's SOPA Hearing? A Short List

                    There are plenty of quite legitimate reasons to be opposed to this bill without turning it into yet another conspiracy theory.
                    Last edited by Formaldehyde; 12-29-2011, 08:50 AM.

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                      Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                      The closest thing to piracy I do honestly is download ISO images of Microsoft install disks.

                      A customer comes to me with a HP Laptop with Vista Home Premium and failed to make the restore CDs. The Windows License is right on the laptop so I download an ISO through BIT Torrent install the OS and use the 100% Legitimate license on the PC. Going through Microsoft or HP is a pain in the ass and can cost money IF they are willing to send me disks.

                      Now if Microsoft made it easier for little Mom and pop computer shops to just get the install CDs, I would pay a fee for a complete CD catalog of OS CDs, I wouldn't need to download the ISO's

                      Just an example of a legitimate need for File Sharing.

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                        Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                        It's a good thing this bill already failed. It never made it out of committee. Besides, had this bill passed, I would have download the best torrent I could find and started downloading as much as I could. I have a 30mb/s connection and I'm sure I can put a huge dent into corporate profits using just my internet and a few tricks I may or may not know.

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                          Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                          We do need anti-piracy laws with teeth but those laws don't have to extend past existing copyright laws they have to enforce ones that actually exist. If I photocopy a book and send distrubute a dozen copies I am violating copyright but the photo-copier manufacturer didn't, the place with the photo-copier didn't, the store (or library) where I got the book didn't violate copyright. Someoene outside the U.S. can't violate U.S. copyright law because....drum roll please...it doesn't apply to them unless their own nation supports U.S. copyright laws.

                          As for music,games,video clips....well they aren't yours (except maybe for that unique single copy). If you didn't create all the content you have no right to distribute a video clip you don't hold copyright to unless soemeon else gave you that right. There are fair use terms and contions and if peopel don't like them they are free to produce somehtign of their own of equal or greater value and distribute is copyright free however they wish.

                          The notion this is a money making plot is nonsense, beyond the original money making plots that attract people to sites of course.

                          The language in SOPA is too broad and poorly written, it gives firms with deep pockets opportunity to employ lawyers in greater efficiency against people with shallower pockets.

                          The internet will survive. We'll still be here even if "SOPA-next generation" passes and we'll be here gets repealed after an army of lawyers from firms sue each other and folks realize the language of SOPA was too broad.
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                            Re: SOPA - The end of the Internet as we know it

                            Formaldehyde has it exactly right. This isn't so much a case of lawmakers being malevolent as they just don't know what the heck they are voting on.

                            And it's not as if this isn't a frequent thing. Lawmakers routinely pass complicated laws affecting industries they don't understand.

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                              The whole idea of Internet copying seems much ado about nothing to me. Most people WANT their work to go viral nowadays and if the artist won't enforce his rights the lawyer can't...You can indeed make a great fortunes giving content away and there's nothing revolutionary about it, as NBC, CBS and ABC have been doing it since 1950.

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