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  • adaher
    started a topic House rejects President's budget 414-0

    House rejects President's budget 414-0

    House ready to OK GOP budget, rejects rival plans - Yahoo! News

    That's two budgets in a row. Is there a reason the President submits such unserious budget proposals?

  • jviehe
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by JohnLocke View Post
    So true. I heard Obama lie about this again today. To the Left's way of thinking, if you pay $9.9 B instead of $10 B you would have paid if you did not invest in something that has a tax write off then the $9.9B is referred to as subsidized. This makes the frothing at the mouth average uneducated Liberal, but I repeat myself, think oil companies are making billions in profits AND getting tax-payer financed subsidies. But the truth is, as you pointed out, oil companies pay BILLIONS in taxes.

    This is what pisses me off about Leftists; they engage in bald face lies as a matter of routine to advance their agenda. They are so convinced of their own lies they forget the truth and make fools out of themselves.
    So do republicans, but I agree.

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  • JohnLocke
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by jviehe View Post
    We arent subsidizing oil companies. They are subsidizing us, paying billions in taxes.
    So true. I heard Obama lie about this again today. To the Left's way of thinking, if you pay $9.9 B instead of $10 B you would have paid if you did not invest in something that has a tax write off then the $9.9B is referred to as subsidized. This makes the frothing at the mouth average uneducated Liberal, but I repeat myself, think oil companies are making billions in profits AND getting tax-payer financed subsidies. But the truth is, as you pointed out, oil companies pay BILLIONS in taxes.

    This is what pisses me off about Leftists; they engage in bald face lies as a matter of routine to advance their agenda. They are so convinced of their own lies they forget the truth and make fools out of themselves.

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by wooyarn View Post
    I know it's hard for you to hold "your side" responsible or accountable for their actions, but "your side" is just as screwed up as the "other side"
    I don't have much of a side. I have a side that I have more in common with than the other but that is only because there are no other alternatives. Why do you think I'm supporting what is, essentially, a third party candidate? Anyways, yes, Congress did pass the stimulus (which I was against) in a bipartisan manner. They also seem to have passed it w/o much regard to regulating how it was spent. But, by no means, does that make them guilty of Obama's blatant political paybacks that he kicked out to green companies (who were known to not be nonviable) that basically immediately went bankrupt.

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  • jviehe
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
    I don't know who filibustered it but I hope they lose their jobs the next election. We should really be subsidizing anyone, that includes green energy money sink holes. You know, those companies that got billions of dollars from Obama and then went bankrupt? Look at that...you can't blame all this shit on Republicans.
    We arent subsidizing oil companies. They are subsidizing us, paying billions in taxes.

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  • wooyarn
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
    Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, they approved the money in a non-designated way, kinda like a slush fund, as part of the stimulus. Obama then used it as political kick-backs to companies that supported him during the elections and to pander to his base.
    I know it's hard for you to hold "your side" responsible or accountable for their actions, but "your side" is just as screwed up as the "other side"

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  • soot
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by Jason Marcel View Post
    To show just how unserious the GOP is at wanting to pass something serious, they continue to say that poor people and women and students should pay for their mess...
    I agree.

    It is simply unconscionable that grown people would be expected to clean up their own mess.

    How dare the GOP!!!!

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by wooyarn View Post
    But didn't the Republican Congress approve that money?
    Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, they approved the money in a non-designated way, kinda like a slush fund, as part of the stimulus. Obama then used it as political kick-backs to companies that supported him during the elections and to pander to his base.

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  • wooyarn
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
    I don't know who filibustered it but I hope they lose their jobs the next election. We should really be subsidizing anyone, that includes green energy money sink holes. You know, those companies that got billions of dollars from Obama and then went bankrupt? Look at that...you can't blame all this shit on Republicans.
    But didn't the Republican Congress approve that money?

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by Jason Marcel View Post
    And what happened yesterday in the Senate?

    Harry Reid tried to end oil subsidies (74% of us want that), but it got filibustered.

    Hrm, wonder who filibustered it?

    Could it beeeeeeeee.....a teabagger?
    I don't know who filibustered it but I hope they lose their jobs the next election. We should really be subsidizing anyone, that includes green energy money sink holes. You know, those companies that got billions of dollars from Obama and then went bankrupt? Look at that...you can't blame all this shit on Republicans.

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by goober View Post
    What we need is a system that works, and addresses the problems that need to be addressed, and we used to have that, because congress lived in DC and socialized, and R and D weren't bars to contact.
    Gingrich changed that with the tuesday to thursday schedule, allowing representatives to fly in tuesday, fly out thursday and spend tuesday and wednesday night in a group apartment with members of the same party.
    That's not all, the technology to gerrymander, the science of polling has created a situation where the winning platform isn't the belief and conviction of the candidate, but it constantly changes and emerges in polling numbers, witness Willard Mitt Romney, the master of this.
    Yes, yes, you hate the Constitution (again). You listening to pep-talks from that American hating douche, Fareed Zakaria, again?

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by Jason Marcel View Post
    It's not Harry Reid's fault that he follows a long line of both Democrats and Republicans who were willing to make tough decisions during tough times.
    Reid is the Senate Majority leader yet he can get nothing done. What that means is that he can't even lead his own party in the senate, let alone the entirety. How could it not be his fault? Oh, on top of that, he had two full years of almost a Democrat super-majority and you still say it's not his fault. That's just ridiculous and makes you come off as a whiny little child that always blames everyone else for any, and everything.

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  • jviehe
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by Jason Marcel View Post
    And what happened yesterday in the Senate?

    Harry Reid tried to end oil subsidies (74% of us want that), but it got filibustered.

    Hrm, wonder who filibustered it?

    Could it beeeeeeeee.....a teabagger?
    Nope, Im not aware of anyone in Senate who puts their testicals in others mouths. But all republicans and some Dems voted against closing debate. Cloture failed by 47 Nays.

    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: House rejects President's budget 414-0

    Originally posted by goober View Post
    This is about as close as it gets to what's really happening.

    It's not Democrats or Republicans that have brought us here, it's the constitution. This condition is where the constitution brings us, given the technology and realities of the day, this is what we have.
    It's the perfection of the two party system, almost perfect balance, so nothing can be done unless something upsets the apple cart so badly that one or the other party achieves limited power for a relatively brief period.
    We can't balance the budget, we can't develop a reasonable budget, we can't address the looming crisis of global warming, of an aging population, of rising health care costs, of a military budget that is out of control, and it's the result of the government specified by the constitution.
    Yes, yes, liberals don't like the Constitution.

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  • adaher
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    Democrats wanted to essentially pass a bill of attainder barring oil companies, and only oil companies, from manufacturing tax credits. Get rid of the tax credits, then we can talk.

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