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  • Kerry respects fatwa.

    Kerry respects the religious importance of fatwa among other innane mutterings. Apparantley he is totally unaware of fatwa's that have been decalred against writers, artists, and publishers. He's a fraud to the core, a complete idiot, or both.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/m...gaps/24805549/

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    From the OP linked article:
    Its leaders have issued a fatwa, or formal religious ruling, against such weapons.
    The United States, he said, has "great respect for the religious importance of a fatwa." But negotiators need an agreement that translates that commitment into an agreement that can "guarantee that Iran's program will be peaceful now and peaceful forever."
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    A political pitch to respect the theocratic part of Iran's gov't., while expressing caution about the political part of Iran's gov't. willingness to abide by a "no-nukes" policy. Kerry didn't seem wildly optimistic that a political pact could be reached, which is the bottom line. Not the fatwa. Do you think Kerry is confusing religion and politics here?

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    • #3
      Kerry sseems ,ready to chuck any and all ideals to meet a goal including making public statements that indicate respect for people that murder cartoonists and their publishers.

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      • #4
        Muslims believe that lying is acceptable to forward Islam.

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        • #5
          Iran has no nuclear arms fatwa binding it's hands.
          http://www.middleeast-armscontrol.co...nuclear-fatwa/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
            Kerry respects the religious importance of fatwa among other innane mutterings. Apparantley he is totally unaware of fatwa's that have been decalred against writers, artists, and publishers. He's a fraud to the core, a complete idiot, or both.

            http://www.militarytimes.com/story/m...gaps/24805549/
            Well, you cannot negotiate with muslims, and tear down a religious belief of theirs, and expect them to negotiate. All fatwas are not concerned with killing and violence. It's a sort of religious vow, isn't it? They could have a fatwa against violence, against poverty. And if the musliim world suddenly had a fatwa that would change the way islam interacts with the world, in a good and positive manner....?

            So he isn't the fraud or the complete idiot you accuse him of being, at least not because of this.

            Kerry, who was schedule to travel Sunday to Lausanne, Switzerland, for several days of discussions with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, noted the Islamic Republic's longstanding claims that it has no interest in assembling a nuclear arsenal. Its leaders have issued a fatwa, or formal religious ruling, against such weapons.

            The United States, he said, has "great respect for the religious importance of a fatwa." But negotiators need an agreement that translates that commitment into an agreement that can "guarantee that Iran's program will be peaceful now and peaceful forever."
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            But look, here is the deal in regards to Iran and nukes. We have absolutely no evidence that they are working on a nuke. NONE. Instead it is an accusation, and not that much different from the accusation that Iraq was working on a nuke, which we used as a reason to invade a sovereign nation. We should have learned something from that, learned a lesson. But we learned nothing, and those that ignore history are doomed and damned to repeat it.

            And here is the loony tunes in regards to our foreign policy. Iran has not attacked America. Most of the 9-11 attackers were Saudis. Saudi Arabia are ruled over by radicals, the wasabi sect, and this sect hates the Shia sect, in fact they see them as indulging in apostasy, and if you meet one, you should kill him. Yet we side with this sect, over the shia. Things in the middle east are complicated, yet our rulers have exhibited utter stupidity, in our dealings in the middle east. And you can see what it has wrought. We are the idiots, the dems and the repubs.



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            • #7
              Iran is bust acquiring all the means and tools to build a nuclear weapon but would nevere ever build a nuclear weapon because... nation's always make sure to do the least with their assets?

              As for a fatwa that can indeed be ad simple as being sure to seriously contemplate an issue and pray on it....big deal, that doesn't stop politicians, scientists and the military even in a country like Iran.
              Kerry's language was pandering to Iran and brownosing for his boss.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                Iran is bust acquiring all the means and tools to build a nuclear weapon but would nevere ever build a nuclear weapon because... nation's always make sure to do the least with their assets?

                As for a fatwa that can indeed be ad simple as being sure to seriously contemplate an issue and pray on it....big deal, that doesn't stop politicians, scientists and the military even in a country like Iran.
                Kerry's language was pandering to Iran and brownosing for his boss.
                Iran wants to enrich uranium instead of having to buy it from other, who could cut off supplies. Nuclear reactors run on enriched radioactive elements. Like other nations, they need electrical power. and know as others do that non fossil fuel energy production is necessary. Iran has the right to do this.

                NOW, here is the hair in the oatmeal. Iran has had more than enough time to already build a nuke, yet we act like they have been working on one for what, 30 years? LOL. How long did it take NK? How long did it take the US in ww2? LOL

                A little rational thinking here goes a LONG WAY. The same old crap was used as a reason to invade a sovereign nation like Iraq. It's a farce, propaganda, more than likely, what Israel says and the hawks here, who speak on behalf of the military industrial complex.

                If we lose our own logic and reason, and try to do with Iran what we did with Iraq, its ww3 boys. China and Russia are allied with Iran. China has vested interest in iran, and has already said it would defend Iran. Iran is no threat to the US. The sunni Saudis hate Iran, and that is in part driving this. The sunnis believe that shias should be killed if you meet one. That is a fact with the conservative sects of sunni, which wahabism is.

                Israel has nukes, for it is surrounded by muslims who hate them, and would kill them all if they could. Iran is shia, and knows the conservative sunnis would do the same to them for apostasy, if they could. Iran should probably have a nuke just to keep the sunnis at bay, yet we have not a single piece of evidence that they are developing one, which they could have already developed, if they were going to do it. Think about it.

                All of these really bad radical Islamic groups in the middle east like AQ, ISIS, are sunni. You don't have large armies of shia radicals, that operate on their own, like AQ did, like ISIS does. Sure you have small factions like Hezbollah, but they are amateurs compared to these like ISIS who are taking over territory. The US was attacked by sunnis, not shias.

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                • #9
                  Well said, BD. Let's also face reality today, as opposed to fear mongering with 1950's technology. If Iran wants to build a bomb, they'll need to hide it, which is impossible with today's technology. US satellites pick up a higher level of radioactivity (needed for the Bomb), we tell Israel, their agents in place do what they need to do. Game over.

                  Iran doesn't want to go there, but they just might want to pretend to go there in order to extract concessions from the US, or help prop up their image for domestic consumption.

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                  • #10
                    If the only thing the Ayatollahs wanted was nuclear power, Obama would have bombed them years ago.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                      Iran wants to enrich uranium instead of having to buy it from other, who could cut off supplies. Nuclear reactors run on enriched radioactive elements. Like other nations, they need electrical power. and know as others do that non fossil fuel energy production is necessary. Iran has the right to do this.

                      NOW, here is the hair in the oatmeal. Iran has had more than enough time to already build a nuke, yet we act like they have been working on one for what, 30 years? LOL. How long did it take NK? How long did it take the US in ww2? LOL

                      A little rational thinking here goes a LONG WAY. The same old crap was used as a reason to invade a sovereign nation like Iraq. It's a farce, propaganda, more than likely, what Israel says and the hawks here, who speak on behalf of the military industrial complex.

                      If we lose our own logic and reason, and try to do with Iran what we did with Iraq, its ww3 boys. China and Russia are allied with Iran. China has vested interest in iran, and has already said it would defend Iran. Iran is no threat to the US. The sunni Saudis hate Iran, and that is in part driving this. The sunnis believe that shias should be killed if you meet one. That is a fact with the conservative sects of sunni, which wahabism is.

                      Israel has nukes, for it is surrounded by muslims who hate them, and would kill them all if they could. Iran is shia, and knows the conservative sunnis would do the same to them for apostasy, if they could. Iran should probably have a nuke just to keep the sunnis at bay, yet we have not a single piece of evidence that they are developing one, which they could have already developed, if they were going to do it. Think about it.

                      All of these really bad radical Islamic groups in the middle east like AQ, ISIS, are sunni. You don't have large armies of shia radicals, that operate on their own, like AQ did, like ISIS does. Sure you have small factions like Hezbollah, but they are amateurs compared to these like ISIS who are taking over territory. The US was attacked by sunnis, not shias.

                      So not only do you support the US government putting citizens in concentration camps, you also support the Iranian regime.

                      How can you call yourself an American with a straight face?

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