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  • Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

    Wow, conservatives are fighting for the rights of porn stars while being prudes and telling people gay sex is immoral and that because they don't like contraception sex shouldn't be undertaken lightly and we should be forced to live with the consequences because they don't like abortion either.

    That's some grade A hypocrisy right there.

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      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
      Wow, conservatives are fighting for the rights of porn stars while being prudes and telling people gay sex is immoral and that because they don't like contraception sex shouldn't be undertaken lightly and we should be forced to live with the consequences because they don't like abortion either.

      That's some grade A hypocrisy right there.
      Personally I think it is great that California is trying to drive out the porn industry. It certainly won't come to Missouri. The observation I think here is that the Porn industry makes California a lot of money and it is just another example of government trying to make life difficult for a business. They are not making life difficult for moral reasons, only because, like most Democrat programs, they want more control.

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        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        Wow, conservatives are fighting for the rights of porn stars while being prudes and telling people gay sex is immoral and that because they don't like contraception sex shouldn't be undertaken lightly and we should be forced to live with the consequences because they don't like abortion either.

        That's some grade A hypocrisy right there.
        Consenting adults and all that, so the first 1/2 of your comment is straw. Come to think of it, the second 1/2 is too. I keep telling people that I'm not the typical conservative, regardless you try to cast into that mold, but I won't fit.

        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
        Personally I think it is great that California is trying to drive out the porn industry. It certainly won't come to Missouri. The observation I think here is that the Porn industry makes California a lot of money and it is just another example of government trying to make life difficult for a business. They are not making life difficult for moral reasons, only because, like most Democrat programs, they want more control.
        We have a winner. That was the point. At least the point that I was trying to make. While the Sacramento legislature is screwing their electorate, they see fit to stick their regulatory noses into other people's screwing around? How hypocritical is that? Typical liberal / progressive / Democrat, not even people's sex lives are safe from their regulatory interference.

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        • Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

          PERSONALLY, I'd prefer conservatives just look the other way while the porn industry gets whipped mercilessly...

          BUT, I suppose I should stick with the Constitution after all.

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          • Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

            Not sure if he's a liberal or not, but sure is dumb.
            For all the complex financial products they can dream up, simple common sense still seems to elude the bright minds of Wall Street. Or at least, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein.

            Hoping to shore up his firm's battered image, he spearheaded an all-out public relations campaign this fall, touting his company's important role in building economies and helping everyday workers prosper.

            Last month, however, he got a bit carried away, telling a Times of London reporter that he was just a banker "doing God's work." For $43 million a year.
            Dumbest moments in business 2009 - Goldman Sachs's PR blitz (1) - FORTUNE

            Yup. Sure is a dumb thing to say, especially when Goldman Sachs still earns its money in soon-to-be banned ways

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              Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
              Not sure if he's a liberal or not, but sure is dumb.

              Dumbest moments in business 2009 - Goldman Sachs's PR blitz (1) - FORTUNE

              Yup. Sure is a dumb thing to say, especially when Goldman Sachs still earns its money in soon-to-be banned ways
              Sure, that's why he fired 1,500 traders in the US and eventually placed those positions in Singapore.

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              • Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                Consenting adults and all that, so the first 1/2 of your comment is straw. Come to think of it, the second 1/2 is too. I keep telling people that I'm not the typical conservative, regardless you try to cast into that mold, but I won't fit.
                Gays are consenting adults as well but conservatives seem to have a problem with them.
                Conservatives can't have it both ways and stick up for the porn industry while being prudish and contraception and gay issues.

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                  Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                  Gays are consenting adults as well but conservatives seem to have a problem with them.
                  Conservatives can't have it both ways and stick up for the porn industry while being prudish and contraception and gay issues.
                  Oh crap, not again...

                  conservatives don't give a rat's ass what homosexuals do with and to each other. Most conservatives don't care about contraception, either. We get torqued when The Lord high Obama tells us we HAVE TO PAY for someone else's contraception and we get upset when homosexuals try to force us to accept their BEHAVIOR as "normal" or try to teach "why Johnny has two mommies" to our elementary aged children, or take over Disneyland and spend the day parading around screaming and three - fourths naked grabbing each others' balls and butts.... And then demand the rest of us pay for their medical treatment for the various diseases and the damage they do to each other.

                  we get upset when less than 3% of the population drives what is moral and right in this country when they clearly know neither "moral" nor "right" as evidenced by their public (not their private) behavior.

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                  • Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                    Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                    conservatives don't give a rat's ass what homosexuals do with and to each other. Most conservatives don't care about contraception, either. We get torqued when The Lord high Obama tells us we HAVE TO PAY for someone else's contraception and we get upset when homosexuals try to force us to accept their BEHAVIOR as "normal" or try to teach "why Johnny has two mommies" to our elementary aged children, or take over Disneyland and spend the day parading around screaming and three - fourths naked grabbing each others' balls and butts.... And then demand the rest of us pay for their medical treatment for the various diseases and the damage they do to each other.
                    I couldn't disagree more. Many conservatives, particularly conservative politicians, do care about homosexuality, abortion etc. Why? Because it's a way of generating campaign donations, and getting out the vote. If these issues are so successful in gaining donor support, and election support, then clearly conservative voters do care about it.

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                      Conservatives go on about homosexuality being a deviant behaviour all the time and I've seen it argued on here plenty of times by OMD. He has said he disapproves of the act of homosexual sex many times so you can hardly claim he doesn't care what people get up to in the bedroom. Even in your last post Good1 you claim not to care then go on a rant about what gay people do and in a hugely negative way so which is it, do you not care in which case you must retract your rant or do you care in which case you must retract the statement that you don't care?

                      Which is it?

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                        Originally posted by noahath View Post
                        I couldn't disagree more. Many conservatives, particularly conservative politicians, do care about homosexuality, abortion etc. Why? Because it's a way of generating campaign donations, and getting out the vote. If these issues are so successful in gaining donor support, and election support, then clearly conservative voters do care about it.
                        Except that Peter was not talking about politicians. He painted all conservatives with the same broad brush in his little fuss about his perception that they are also protecting the porn industry. SO I will reiterate, conservatives are not protecthing porn industry, per se: SOME conservatives recoil at the thought of a nanny state forcing a legal business to comply with unnecessary regulations, but ALL conservatives really do dislike and distrust and would prefer to abolish the porn industry...

                        Conservatives resist what they see as a moral slide in America and both homosexuality and pornography are part of that. You've even seen several of us post this very same sentiment in these forums many, many times.

                        Peter is wrong in his rant and while you rightly observe that a politician will seek the side of the fence with the most money, I don't figure politicians influence my perspective at all: They're <sneer> politicians.

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                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        Conservatives go on about homosexuality being a deviant behaviour all the time and I've seen it argued on here plenty of times by OMD. He has said he disapproves of the act of homosexual sex many times so you can hardly claim he doesn't care what people get up to in the bedroom. Even in your last post Good1 you claim not to care then go on a rant about what gay people do and in a hugely negative way so which is it, do you not care in which case you must retract your rant or do you care in which case you must retract the statement that you don't care?

                        Which is it?
                        IT IS as I stated.

                        We (I) don't care what homosexuals do with or to each other.

                        We (I) DO care what homosexuals do that impact me or my family (as I documented in part above).

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                          Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                          Oh crap, not again...

                          conservatives don't give a rat's ass what homosexuals do with and to each other. Most conservatives don't care about contraception, either. We get torqued when The Lord high Obama tells us we HAVE TO PAY for someone else's contraception and we get upset when homosexuals try to force us to accept their BEHAVIOR as "normal" or try to teach "why Johnny has two mommies" to our elementary aged children, or take over Disneyland and spend the day parading around screaming and three - fourths naked grabbing each others' balls and butts.... And then demand the rest of us pay for their medical treatment for the various diseases and the damage they do to each other.

                          we get upset when less than 3% of the population drives what is moral and right in this country when they clearly know neither "moral" nor "right" as evidenced by their public (not their private) behavior.
                          Oh, crap, not again.

                          Nobody is forcing you to accept anything. You are still free to be as bigoted as you please towards gays. You are free to teach your children that gays are terrible, immoral people who are going to burn in Hell for all eternity.

                          What you do not recognize is that there are many people who view what you believe towards gays as being immoral and wrong as evidenced by your public behavior and speech.

                          You suffer absolutely no injury from the fact that two other people happen to be the same gender and happen to love one another. All the "damage" there is in your mind.

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                            Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
                            Oh, crap, not again.

                            Nobody is forcing you to accept anything. You are still free to be as bigoted as you please towards gays. You are free to teach your children that gays are terrible, immoral people who are going to burn in Hell for all eternity.

                            What you do not recognize is that there are many people who view what you believe towards gays as being immoral and wrong as evidenced by your public behavior and speech.

                            You suffer absolutely no injury from the fact that two other people happen to be the same gender and happen to love one another. All the "damage" there is in your mind.
                            In your self-righteous opinion, I suffer absolutely no injury, Matt.

                            Even if you knew me, and you don't, you would not have the authority to make such a pronouncement.

                            Further, I resent your insinuation about what I teach my children. Since you have not taken a MOMENT to understand or to even seek out what I believe about homosexuals, your hatred of me because of what you have convinced yourself is my position is reprehensible and unfounded.

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                              And I find your comments about gays to be the same.

                              You get all upset about my comments - how do you think YOUR comments are received by the gay community? And please don't waste my time with any moral claims that your position is endorsed by God.

                              Any "injury" you receive from someone else being gay is entirely self-inflicted.

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                                Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                                Conservatives go on about homosexuality being a deviant behaviour all the time and I've seen it argued on here plenty of times by OMD. He has said he disapproves of the act of homosexual sex many times so you can hardly claim he doesn't care what people get up to in the bedroom. Even in your last post Good1 you claim not to care then go on a rant about what gay people do and in a hugely negative way so which is it, do you not care in which case you must retract your rant or do you care in which case you must retract the statement that you don't care?

                                Which is it?
                                What I believe or don't believe, like or don't like is not the issue. God says that homosexual behavior is an abomination in his eyes. It is no worse than adultery, murder, theft, or any other sin. What I don't want is for our society to be told that homosexual behavior is not a sin and is acceptable in the eyes of God. I don't want our schools teaching that homosexual behavior is OK.

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