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  • #61
    Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

    Originally posted by Good1 View Post
    He constantly lies but this, as eohrn points out, is a different kind of lie: First, although he lies constantly, he seldom actually gets caught (and is NEVER outed by his own party); second, he typically deals in half-truths or specter of truth (grain of truth) in his lies: This was out-and-out, bald-faced, pants-on-fire sitting on a telephone wire liar, liar!

    It would be misguided to suggest this has cost him his credibility with me, but the fact is, I have not respected this liar since I moved to Illinois in '97.
    It turns out Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) did not actually hear a Republican House leader tell President Barack Obama, “I cannot even stand to look at you.”

    Rather, Durbin heard about the alleged confrontation from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who supposedly heard it from an anonymous White House source.
    Reid told his Democratic caucus about the alleged comment during a private meeting last week, two senators confirmed to the Huffington Post.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney on Wednesday denied Durbin’s initial charge, which he posted on Facebook Sunday. On Thursday, the administration reiterated that no confrontation between the president and a Republican congressman took place during recent budget negotiations, and apologized for what it characterized as a “miscommunication.”
    The Story About Dick Durbin and a GOP Leader Supposedly Disrespecting Obama Has Taken a Really Weird Turn | TheBlaze.com

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    • #62
      Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

      He's still an embarrassment and a liar.

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      • #63
        Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

        Harry Reid: 'Everybody ... Willing to Pay More' Taxes | The Weekly Standard

        Aww geez. Old Dirty Harry is making this too easy. He's also so full of shit.
        I can only hope that all his constituents hear this, and remember this when they next walk into the voting booth.

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        • #64
          Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

          This whole thing with Dick Dirtbin claiming a "House GOP Leader" insulted Obama just keeps getting richer and richer. After the White House said it didn't happen, it comes out that Dirtbin wasn't even in the room but allegedly got the intel from Harry Reid... Who, it now turns out, wasn't in the room either.

          Folks, this stuff is writing itself. SO the White House then says there was a misunderstanding and that an unnamed White House aide told Reid, who apparently told Dirtbag... But Pete Sessions (the alleged insulter) is exhonerated by the White House...

          and HuffPo has egg on their face for breaking another story (a la CBS) without properly vetting it...

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          • #65
            Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
            Harry Reid: 'Everybody ... Willing to Pay More' Taxes | The Weekly Standard

            Aww geez. Old Dirty Harry is making this too easy. He's also so full of shit.
            I can only hope that all his constituents hear this, and remember this when they next walk into the voting booth.
            So I listened to the entire NPR interview:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQFU...yer_detailpage

            Reid does say the 1% and everyone else is willing to pay more (he talking about raising revenue), so I challenge detractors to use objectives sources to prove that Reid is lying.

            I also challenge you to listen to the entire interview.
            Last edited by jet57; 10-25-2013, 06:30 PM.

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            • #66
              Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

              Originally posted by jet57 View Post
              So I listened to the entire NPR interview:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQFU...yer_detailpage

              Reid does say the 1% and everyone else is willing to pay more (he talking about raising revenue), so I challenge detractors to use objectives sources to prove that Reid is lying.

              I also challenge you to listen to the entire interview.
              i'm part of his "... Everyone else."

              i don't want to pay more taxes to this loser government.

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              • #67
                Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                i'm part of his "... Everyone else."

                i don't want to pay more taxes to this loser government.
                I don't want to pay any more taxes. That makes two of us. I guess that rules out the everybody theory.

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                • #68
                  Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                  Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                  I don't want to pay any more taxes. That makes two of us. I guess that rules out the everybody theory.
                  I don't think the government deserves more of my money than it already gets, so I don't want to pay any more taxes.

                  Further, I think government needs to be scaled back quite a bit. It shouldn't be the largest player in the economy, if at all possible. Say 10% of GDP in spending as a target? That I could live with. I'm sure of it.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                    Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                    i'm part of his "... Everyone else."

                    i don't want to pay more taxes to this loser government.
                    Oh you're just being disputatious.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                      Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                      I don't think the government deserves more of my money than it already gets, so I don't want to pay any more taxes.

                      Further, I think government needs to be scaled back quite a bit. It shouldn't be the largest player in the economy, if at all possible. Say 10% of GDP in spending as a target? That I could live with. I'm sure of it.
                      Here's just something that was a passing thought: what if we could get the government to spend the right amounts of money the right way!! Would that help?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                        Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                        Here's just something that was a passing thought: what if we could get the government to spend the right amounts of money the right way!! Would that help?
                        That would certainly be a step in the right direction. It would generate much needed conversations, discussions and debates, and hopefully, priorities built on consensus. It all starts with a budget number, what you can afford to spend, and carving it up based on priorities, all the knowing that you aren't going to have enough for everyone and everything.

                        Seems like this process has been pretty much eliminated with all the lack of budget proposals from the Senate, and the tabling of all House budget proposals in the Senate. Rather than a robust process with robust debates and discussions, we get nothing more than CRs.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                          Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                          Reid does say the 1% and everyone else is willing to pay more (he talking about raising revenue), so I challenge detractors to use objectives sources to prove that Reid is lying
                          It is awesome that you give Reid a pass on having to prove his absurd claims!

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                          • #73
                            Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                            Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                            Oh you're just being disputatious.
                            Because I disagree with (and disprove) you?

                            I don't think so. It is not contentious to disagree (and disprove) another. You want "objective sources" and we've given you at least three verifiable, observable sources that absolutely prove the 1% and everyone else wants to pay more taxes is wrong. All three of us are part of "everyone else" and we do NOT want to pay more taxes so Harry Reid is wrong and, by extension since you are supporting him, you are too.

                            I'm sorry you cannot accept logical refutation of your posit ... but it's time to put on your big-boy pants and get over it. You're wrong and no amount of (heh, heh) "disputatiousness" will change it. Further harassment, however, on this point (like demanding "objective sources") will make you look more and more foolish and show evidence that left-wing zealots cannot stand to be proven wrong.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                              Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                              Here's just something that was a passing thought: what if we could get the government to spend the right amounts of money the right way!! Would that help?
                              Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                              That would certainly be a step in the right direction. It would generate much needed conversations, discussions and debates, and hopefully, priorities built on consensus. It all starts with a budget number, what you can afford to spend, and carving it up based on priorities, all the knowing that you aren't going to have enough for everyone and everything.

                              Seems like this process has been pretty much eliminated with all the lack of budget proposals from the Senate, and the tabling of all House budget proposals in the Senate. Rather than a robust process with robust debates and discussions, we get nothing more than CRs.
                              I agree that it would be a step in the right direction, but the real FIRST step will have to be trimming the demands we currently have on the cash we currently take in.

                              This is a necessary first step because Jet's posit, that we spend the right amounts in the right way, presupposes we start from where we are NOW (which is spending the wrong amounts on a lot of the wrong programs and efforts) and does not include mitigating the government takeovers and largesse of the immediate and distant past.

                              In the "right amounts of money," I also see the potential to gather more than we currently are gathering from the population and I do not agree with that possibility.

                              FIRST get us right-sized, THEN get the government to spend the right amounts on the right programs.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Dumb Things Liberals Say

                                Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                                I agree that it would be a step in the right direction, but the real FIRST step will have to be trimming the demands we currently have on the cash we currently take in.

                                This is a necessary first step because Jet's posit, that we spend the right amounts in the right way, presupposes we start from where we are NOW (which is spending the wrong amounts on a lot of the wrong programs and efforts) and does not include mitigating the government takeovers and largesse of the immediate and distant past.

                                In the "right amounts of money," I also see the potential to gather more than we currently are gathering from the population and I do not agree with that possibility.

                                FIRST get us right-sized, THEN get the government to spend the right amounts on the right programs.

                                This is a necessary first step because Jet's posit, that we spend the right amounts in the right way, presupposes we start from where we are NOW
                                No, you can't do anything until you audit the current spending.

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