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Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

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  • Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

    Just to be clear, here's the most straight-forward explanation of why the GOP has gone insane about defunding Obamacare:

    Make sure that the working poor don't have access to affordable health care. The GOP has been driven around the bend by the thought that rich people will see their taxes go up slightly in order to help non-rich people get decent access to medical care.

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    Here's a message from your GOP:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJue-...layer_embedded

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    Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

    And Here's a message from the boy king

    "Just now I spoke on the phone with President Rouhani of the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said. "The two of us discussed our ongoing efforts to reach an agreement over Iran's nuclear program."

    This is the first time leaders from America and Iran have spoken since 1979.
    Talk with and negotiate with an outlaw nation that supports terror and genocide

    Won't negotiate with Republicans...

    Who's holding hostages?



    Obama Talks on Phone With Iran's Leader, Negotiates With Tehran | The Weekly Standard

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      Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

      Originally posted by jpn View Post
      Just to be clear, here's the most straight-forward explanation of why the GOP has gone insane about defunding Obamacare:

      Make sure that the working poor don't have access to affordable health care. The GOP has been driven around the bend by the thought that rich people will see their taxes go up slightly in order to help non-rich people get decent access to medical care.

      (̅_̅_̅(̅(̅_̅_̅_̅_̅_̅̅()ڪ

      Here's a message from your GOP:

      The GOP&#39;s Debt Ceiling Ransom - YouTube
      The GOP is being driven around the bend by their constituents who don't want Obamacare. Over half of the population of this country think it is a bad idea. It was rammed through Congress on a strictly partisan vote. Everyone in this country has access to medical care and Obamacare is not going to make anything any better.

      Obamacare’s Forgotten Faces

      Obamacare's Forgotten Faces : Columbia Journalism Review

      Obamacare leaves poor in Mandate Limbo

      Obamacare leaves poor in Mandate Limbo | Obamacare Watcher

      So, the people who need help the most are left out in the cold by Obamacare and you think it's a great idea.

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        Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

        Originally posted by tsquare View Post
        And Here's a message from the boy king

        Talk with and negotiate with an outlaw nation that supports terror and genocide

        Won't negotiate with Republicans...

        Who's holding hostages?

        Obama Talks on Phone With Iran's Leader, Negotiates With Tehran | The Weekly Standard
        Hold on a second...there is nothing wrong with Obama talking to Iran. It's what you do if you want to make any headway with anything. Secondly, how exactly are they an outlaw nation? Third, what genocide are you talking about?

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          Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

          Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
          Hold on a second...there is nothing wrong with Obama talking to Iran. It's what you do if you want to make any headway with anything. Secondly, how exactly are they an outlaw nation? Third, what genocide are you talking about?
          Let's not get this thread off track on Iran. T was using the example just to demonstrate that Obama will negotiate with anyone but Republicans.

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            Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

            Regarding Obama's negotiating partners, one is threatening to blow up the American economy and the other is Iran. I think that speaks for itself.

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              Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
              Let's not get this thread off track on Iran. T was using the example just to demonstrate that Obama will negotiate with anyone but Republicans.
              True enough...

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                Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                Originally posted by Danny View Post
                Regarding Obama's negotiating partners, one is threatening to blow up the American economy and the other is Iran. I think that speaks for itself.
                One isn't threatening anything at all, and Iran wants to plow up everything and anything. Danny, did you know that 'Death to America Day' is still an official holiday in Iran?

                Threatening to blow up the American economy = the new AGW for the left.

                Hint: neither is true

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                  Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                  Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
                  Hold on a second...there is nothing wrong with Obama talking to Iran. It's what you do if you want to make any headway with anything. Secondly, how exactly are they an outlaw nation? Third, what genocide are you talking about?

                  10 Adam 12....We have a live one here. One of them seems to have woken up.

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                    Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                    Originally posted by jpn View Post
                    Just to be clear, here's the most straight-forward explanation of why the GOP has gone insane about defunding Obamacare:

                    Make sure that the working poor don't have access to affordable health care. The GOP has been driven around the bend by the thought that rich people will see their taxes go up slightly in order to help non-rich people get decent access to medical care.

                    (̅_̅_̅(̅(̅_̅_̅_̅_̅_̅̅()ڪ

                    Here's a message from your GOP:

                    The GOP's Debt Ceiling Ransom - YouTube
                    It's clearly simple.

                    Thou shall not take money from the wealthy to the benefit of the less advantage
                    Of course, they dress it up, use different words. But that is their message.

                    Of course, their biggest fear is that the ACA will work and people will like it, and then they can't get rid of it.

                    It may become like Medicare or Social Security. Then they can play like they're trying to save it, while they try to destroy it.

                    As far as this silly business about a 15 minute phone conversation with Iran. I doubt the conservatives here know it but Saint Ronald talked with the Evil Empire who had thousands of nukes pointed at us.

                    BTW, the Repukes don't want to negotiate, that is unless they get everything they want. And it certainly appears as if they would prefer wrecking the economy than allowing the ACA to advance.

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                      Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                      Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                      One isn't threatening anything at all, and Iran wants to plow up everything and anything. Danny, did you know that 'Death to America Day' is still an official holiday in Iran?

                      Threatening to blow up the American economy = the new AGW for the left.

                      Hint: neither is true
                      If the GOP isn't threatening default then why would Obama agree to give them anything in exchange for raising the debt ceiling? You see the problem with the GOP position?

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                        Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                        Hmmm some of the GOP is pandering to the people who voted for them...shocking.

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                          Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                          Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                          And Here's a message from the boy king
                          Talk with and negotiate with an outlaw nation that supports terror and genocide

                          Won't negotiate with Republicans...

                          Who's holding hostages?
                          The difference between Iran and the Republican Party is that Iran is not holding our nation hostage in order to repeal a law that the Republicans can't repeal the old fashioned way--by voting it down.

                          Last edited by jpn; 10-09-2013, 06:37 PM.

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                            Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                            The GOP is being driven around the bend by their constituents who don't want Obamacare. Over half of the population of this country think it is a bad idea. It was rammed through Congress on a strictly partisan vote. Everyone in this country has access to medical care and Obamacare is not going to make anything any better.
                            Oh, so any vote that isn't bipartisan is not legitimate? Wow, that would open an entirely new avenue of legal argument, if it had any merit whatsoever. But it doesn't, so it won't. If you can vote it down, do so. If you can't, then you're shit out of luck. Holding the nation hostage because you can't get your way is treason.

                            Saying that over half the country opposes the Affordable Care Act is stupid. For one thing, a significant number of people oppose it because it's not liberal enough. That would be one of the reasons that polls also show that only about a third of Americans support repealing the ACA, according to the right-wing Forbes: New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare - Forbes

                            (By the way, I just love the Fox "News" ticker on every web page here. What a great way to explain the lack of insight, confusion, and misinformation displayed by many of the posters here.)

                            Vote Democratic! We're not perfect, but they're crazy!)

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                              Re: Why the GOP is Holding a Gun to the Economy's Head

                              Originally posted by jpn View Post
                              The difference between Iran and the Republican Party is that Iran is not holding our nation hostage in order to repeal a law that the Republicans can't repeal the old fashioned way--by voting it down.
                              Only, the Republicans have passed multiple measures to fund everything but Obamacare and the Democrats in the Senate refuse to vote on any of them and the President has promised to veto them if the do pass them.

                              Tell me what is he difference between trying to defund Obamacare and refusing to enforce immigration laws. This administration picks and chooses which laws, already on the books, that it doesn't like because it can't repeal them the old fashioned way -- by voting it down.

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