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Slow Diagnosis and Final Months

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  • Slow Diagnosis and Final Months

    My elderly neighbor is terminally ill, he has been given months too live and is deemed too ill for chemo therapy due to overall state of health and how far along his cancer has gotten. He's an elderly man who was working until last year when illness prohibited him form truck driving as he had for years. While at the hospital for gastrointestinal distress he got an initial diagnosis of cancer as a golf-ball sized lump grew in his hand, it still took 6 weeks to get a follow-up. He got radiation treatment for the tumor in the hand (I drove him to all of the sessions). Now with that round done he finally got the full diagnosis months after the initial hospital visit, he has several spots of cancer in his body and has been deemed to weak for chemo-therapy and future radiation therapy will only help reduce some symptoms as he dies over the next few months; it took far too long for him to discover how ill he was but that's the state of healthcare for elderly veterans insured by medicare and medicaid in this country.

    He's asked me to come over in half an hour while a social worker investigates him on charges of self neglect so he has an extra set of ears and isn't too cranky. The man has been sick for over a year, I run the occasional errand for him and gathered and hauled off 8 or 9 bags of garbage yesterday but he needs much more help than I can deliver, I hope the social workers can help the man find the assistance he needs to make the last few months of his life bearable.

    We discus taxes,policies and insurance all the time but it always feels like we are forgetting there are people in serious need out there and no medical reform I'm aware of is doing much at all to genuinely improve the lives for the truly ill among us. Don't elderly people who have worked their whole lives need better?


  • #2
    Score one for state and county services they are arranging a cleaning crew to do a deep clean for my neighbor and will have someone come by for light assistance house cleaning once a week or so hospice care at home is possible.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
      Score one for state and county services they are arranging a cleaning crew to do a deep clean for my neighbor and will have someone come by for light assistance house cleaning once a week or so hospice care at home is possible.
      I'm glad to hear he's gotten help. Unfortunately I don't believe any healthcare system will help EVERYONE. Even if the health care is spread out to accommodate more people, it will mean greater waiting times to be diagnosed and for treatment. The old plan wouldn't accommodate everyone either.

      But when it comes to our veterans they should alway be at the front of the line. Any healthcare system should give our veterans premium care and we all should contribute. All citizens owe them a debt of gratitude. I'm sorry your neighbor is suffering and has been neglected. It's not right.

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      • #4
        We have a lady we go to church with who had a surgical issue that needed daily care. At one time, medicare provided home health nurses to provide this service. Obamacare raided home health funds and now they don't cover such treatments. My wife, a retired nurse, went to her house, 40 miles away every day to pack her incision. Our medical system has suffered greatly under Obama and will get nothing but worse. I have a retired Dr. friend who needs injections in his knees which prolongs the need for knee replacement. He went for his injection two weeks ago and found out that it now has to be "pre-approved" by medicare before he can get the injections and that may take as long as 6 weeks. Medicare used to automatically pay for these injections but Obamacare needs extra funds to pay off insurance companies so they are robbing medicare.

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        • #5
          Medicarea and medicaid is seemigly footing the bills for my nneighbor's treatment and care right now but it does seem it had to reach an emergency situation first.

          I've gone over and helped him feed and water his pets and prep the occasiona. meal for him the past few days. It's all pretty grim and sad, The best news is social services can likely find a new home for his dog when he can no longer care for it.

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          • #6
            What's interesting - in a grim way - is that people USED to help elderly neighbors & relatives out more.

            As JDJ demonstrates in his opening post.

            Now we want "other people" - government bureaucracies etc - to do these things for us.

            What we ALL should consider is that;

            1. in time WE will be elderly and needing help of sorts.

            2. friends, neighbors, other people we know, will likely provide much better assistance, at a far better "price," than some unknown state appointed "helper" that is assigned to assist us as a source of income for him/herself.

            In ways, it's part & parcel of the same phenomenon we see happening with how we treat our own offspring.

            We all "have to work" so have to send our youngest children off to "daycare" etc.

            It's one of the negatives of what our culture has become, what it has turned into.

            We're too busy for our children AND we're too busy for our elderly. There's a high price we ALL pay for this.

            ... a high price that we may not be aware of until the time comes for us to be forced into an awareness of it. We've become almost like a sort of "product." We "use ourselves up" and are ... essentially thrown away. We're planted & ... "watered" by other people we pay for the duty, so we can ... "use ourselves up" and then be set aside & "managed" until we "go away."

            Seems like a crappy way to treat ourselves and each other. . but we've all bought into it. We'll probably wonder why when we're older.

            It does not have to be this way. . . but that is a decision that rests on all of our shoulders.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
              What's interesting - in a grim way - is that people USED to help elderly neighbors & relatives out more.

              As JDJ demonstrates in his opening post.

              Now we want "other people" - government bureaucracies etc - to do these things for us.

              What we ALL should consider is that;

              1. in time WE will be elderly and needing help of sorts.

              2. friends, neighbors, other people we know, will likely provide much better assistance, at a far better "price," than some unknown state appointed "helper" that is assigned to assist us as a source of income for him/herself.

              In ways, it's part & parcel of the same phenomenon we see happening with how we treat our own offspring.

              We all "have to work" so have to send our youngest children off to "daycare" etc.

              It's one of the negatives of what our culture has become, what it has turned into.

              We're too busy for our children AND we're too busy for our elderly. There's a high price we ALL pay for this.

              ... a high price that we may not be aware of until the time comes for us to be forced into an awareness of it. We've become almost like a sort of "product." We "use ourselves up" and are ... essentially thrown away. We're planted & ... "watered" by other people we pay for the duty, so we can ... "use ourselves up" and then be set aside & "managed" until we "go away."

              Seems like a crappy way to treat ourselves and each other. . but we've all bought into it. We'll probably wonder why when we're older.

              It does not have to be this way. . . but that is a decision that rests on all of our shoulders.
              The people around here still help each other and the elderly. I have an old gentleman, 91, who landed at Normandy 8 days after D day, that I check on every day. I worked on a neighbors car this evening fixing her door and checking her brakes.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                The people around here still help each other and the elderly. I have an old gentleman, 91, who landed at Normandy 8 days after D day, that I check on every day. I worked on a neighbors car this evening fixing her door and checking her brakes.
                I think we need to see more of this.

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                • #9
                  about 6 weeks ago my elderly neighbor called me frantically he'dfallenn over and. was unable to get up, I rushed over helped him up made some breakfast and realized he had broken his hip so a ambulance was called.

                  After a few days in the hopsital he went to a senior rehabilitation/hospice center. My wife and I visited and ran some chores for him and I've been making sure his animals got food and water.

                  He passed away about an hour ago sitting with one of the nurses and an admn he liked at the facility. There's an aquantance ofhis we"ll call and thats it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                    about 6 weeks ago my elderly neighbor called me frantically he'dfallenn over and. was unable to get up, I rushed over helped him up made some breakfast and realized he had broken his hip so a ambulance was called.

                    After a few days in the hopsital he went to a senior rehabilitation/hospice center. My wife and I visited and ran some chores for him and I've been making sure his animals got food and water.

                    He passed away about an hour ago sitting with one of the nurses and an admn he liked at the facility. There's an aquantance ofhis we"ll call and thats it.
                    My older friend is now 92. He has been working faithfully at the new church we are building every day. He is a retired electrician. His biggest problem is what he has to pay to keep his wife in a nursing facility, $3380 a month. He is frail and probably not long for this world but he is a firm believer and knows where he is going when he leaves here.

                    Did your neighbor have no relatives?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                      My older friend is now 92. He has been working faithfully at the new church we are building every day. He is a retired electrician. His biggest problem is what he has to pay to keep his wife in a nursing facility, $3380 a month. He is frail and probably not long for this world but he is a firm believer and knows where he is going when he leaves here.

                      Did your neighbor have no relatives?
                      No family at all. We're making sure the paperwork doesn't get screwed up (as much as we can) so his remains get treated as he wanted; he'll be cremated and the remains ashes go to a military graveyard.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                        No family at all. We're making sure the paperwork doesn't get screwed up (as much as we can) so his remains get treated as he wanted; he'll be cremated and the remains ashes go to a military graveyard.
                        That's how people are supposed to help each other. If we had more of that we would have a lot less suffering in the world.

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