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  • Re: The good news!

    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Why should the power of seizing assets be given to the government when its related to healthcare?

    Funny, this wasn't one of the talking points about Obamacare. It probably should have been.

    Obamacare is giving the government far too much power. Too much power over the lives of the people.
    Did you miss the Supreme Court decision?
    You want power?
    How about the power to destroy someone's life in an instant by handing legislation over the table in a pizza shop?
    Perversion comes in all shapes, sizes and political parties.

    Maybe the next Republican presidential candidate won't be such an ass.


    • Re: The good news!

      It is official. New notice from Blue Cross Blue Shield of GA. I *do* get to keep my old plan, if I agree to a rate increase of *11%* over 2013 premiums with no guarantee that there will not be additional costs at future renewals. And, this plan does not qualify for subsidies of any kind regardless of whom wants it because it is one of those plans ACA taxes to pay for everyone else.

      And this time they were kind enough to send me a sort of explanation. "Required Notice of Estimated Premium Impact Due to the Federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act." Forgive the quality of the picture, but you will note the increase estimates due to the legislation for an example plan for "illustrative purposes."




      • Re: The good news!

        Seems like we've got multiple Obamacare and it's negative impacts threads going on here. Time to merge?
        Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
        A 26-year-old university graduate penned an open letter this week expressing her deep displeasure with President Barack Obamas signature health care law, saying it has raped her future and now the letter is going viral.

        Ashley Dionne, a recent college graduate, posted the letter detailing her experience with Obamacare on conservative radio host Dennis Pragers Facebook page Monday. She said she received her bachelors degree in 2009 and went back to school for a second degree, but hasnt been able to get more than 32 hours of work a week.

        Nice. The claimed and promised beneficiaries aren't really getting helped by this POS after all. Again, all the promises that this POS was sold to the electorate are all being broken. This is Criminal Fraud perpetrated by Obama and the Democrats. Just remember this next time you step into the voting booth.


        • Re: The good news!

          Democrats to America: We Own the Government!
          October 10, 2013 By Ann Coulter
          Democrats to America: We Own the Government! | FrontPage Magazine

          In the current fight over the government shutdown, Republicans are simply representing the views of the American people.

          Americans didnt ask for Obamacare, they dont want it, but now their insurance premiums are going through the roof, their doctors arent accepting it, and their employers are moving them into part-time work or firing them to avoid the laws mandates.

          Contrary to Obamas promises, it turns out: You cant keep your doctor, you cant keep your insurance you cant even keep your job. In other words, its a typical government program, but this one wrecks your health care.

          Also, the president did raise taxes on the middle class in defiance of his well-worn campaign promise not to. Indeed, Obamacare is the largest tax hike in U.S. history.

          Among the other changes effected by this law are:
          Obamacare will allow insurers to charge 50 percent higher premiums for smokers, but prohibits insurers from increasing premiums for those with HIV/AIDS.
          Nationally, Obamacare will increase mens individual insurance premiums by an average of 99 percent and womens by 62 percent. In North Carolina, for example, individual insurance premiums will triple for women and quadruple for men.
          Health plans valued at $27,500 or more for a family of four will be taxed at a rate of 40 percent.
          No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.
          A 62-year-old man earning $46,000 a year is entitled to a $7,836 government tax credit to buy health insurance. But if he earns an extra $22 in income, he loses the entire $7,836 credit. He will have more take-home pay by earning $46,000 than if he earns $55,000. (If hes lucky, he already works for one of the companies forced by Obamacare to reduce employees hours!)
          Merely to be eligible for millions of dollars in grants from the federal government under Obamacare, education and training programs are required to meet racial, ethnic, gender, linguistic and sexual orientation quotas. Thats going to make health care MUCH better!
          Obamacare is turning America into a part-time nation. According to a recent report by economist John Lott, 97 percent of all jobs added to the economy so far this year have been part-time jobs. Ninety-seven percent!
          Obamacare is such a disaster that the people who wrote it refuse to live under it themselves. Thats right, Congress won a waiver from Obamacare.

          Responding to the peoples will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

          Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

          Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

          Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.

          A longtime Democratic operative, Karen Finney, explained the Democrats intransigence on MSNBC to a delighted Joan Walsh (aka the most easily fooled person on TV) by comparing House Republicans to a teenager trying to borrow his mothers car. No, Im not negotiating! Mother says. Its MY CAR!

          This wasnt a stupid slip of the tongue that other Democrats quickly rejected. Finney had used the exact same metaphor to a panel of highly agreeable MSNBC guests the day before. (MSNBC books no other kind of guest.)

          The left thinks the government is their car and the peoples representatives are obstreperous teenagers trying to borrow the government. Which belongs to Democrats.

          Thats not how the Constitution views the House of Representatives. To the contrary, the House is considered most reflective of the peoples will because its members are elected every two years.

          As a matter of fact, the Republicans who mistakenly assume they have something to do with running the government represent most of the people who pay taxes to run it. So its more like a teenager who is making the car payments, maintaining the car insurance and taking responsibility for registering the car being told: Its not your car.

          But the Democrats refuse to even negotiate. Its their government and if you Republicans think youre going out dressed like that, youve got another thing coming! Needless to say, they absolutely will not consider the Republicans demand that Democrats merely live under Obamacare themselves.

          Instead, Democrats say the Koch brothers are behind the effort to defund Obamacare.

          They say Republicans are trying to burn the whole house down (Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz); have lost their minds (Sen. Harry Reid); are trying to negotiate with a bomb strapped to their chest (senior White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer); are legislative arsonists (Rep. Nancy Pelosi); and are engaging in blatant extortion (White House press secretary Jay Carney).

          The MSNBC crowd calls Republicans arsonists every 15 minutes. They ought to check with fellow MSNBC host Al Sharpton. He knows his arsonists! In 1995, Sharpton whipped up a mob outside the Jewish-owned Freddys Fashion Mart with an anti-Semitic speech. Sometime later, a member of the mob torched the store, killing seven Hispanic employees.

          Every single Democrat in the country uses the exact same talking point: We refuse to negotiate with a gun being held to our head.
          Which means the Democrats will not negotiate at all not now, not ever. House Republicans have already passed three-dozen bills defunding, or otherwise modifying, Obamacare. Senate Democrats and liberal commentators had a good laugh at Republicans for passing them.

          Now theyre paying attention!

          If you are in the minority of Americans not already unalterably opposed to Obamacare, keep in mind that the only reason the government is shut down right now is that Democrats refuse to fund the government if they are required to live under Obamacare.

          Thats how good it is!
          Yup. Typical government program. That's how good it is, which is to say not at all.
          Yup. Typical political elitist attitude. We make laws, but they don't apply to us.
          Should be calling Obamacare for what it really is, liberal / progressive fascism.


          • Re: The good news!

            And the good news (not really) keeps rolling in from all points of the compass.
            Earlier this week, bad news arrived in mailboxes across New Jersey, as people discovered their health-insurance plans had been wiped out by ObamaCare. Plans that didnt measure up to the mandates imposed by the Affordable Care Act were being canceled, despite President Obamas infamous vow that if you like your health care plan, youll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.

            How many folks in New Jersey were affected by this latest failure of Obamas campaign promises? Oh, only about eight hundred thousand or so.
            The Star-Ledger reports this development surprised some who were unaware that provisions in the new law known as Obamacare were forcing insurance companies to scrap some plans they had previously offered.
            . . . .
            WSFA-TV in Montgomery, AL reports that self-employed and small business owners in Alabama are about to hear bad news from Blue Cross Blue Shield.

            Reporter Bethany Wales reports today that BlueCross has to cancel what they call the vast majority of its individual plans because they dont comply with the Affordable Care Act. The president and CEO of the company says its working to match customers with a plan that close to what theyre already paying for. The problem? They are incredibly more expensive double, sometimes triple, what customers are paying now and the benefits dont think to measure up with that lower benefits and higher copays.

            President Obama promised Americans that even if his signature health care law passed, if they liked their current health plan, they could keep that plan.

            So much for that.

            I talked with the customer on the individual with plan today, hes been paying $523 a month for his family of four, Wales repors. Starting in January his premium is going up to more than $1,100 a month. As an extra $600, hes not sure he can find in his budget. And the Blue Cross says the Affordable Care Act requires a rating structure that is drastically different than anything that was used before. Requiring things like rating family by the number of people, so large families have to pay more. Now this customer says his family is only four members, two of them are in college, so he shares his dilemma about keeping his family covered, tonight at 6.
            The president of the United States promised me repeatedly that if I liked my plan, I could keep it. End of story. This was a lie, and I will never for forgive him or anyone who cooperates with him for this egregious deception, said Heather Cross, a 45-year-old widow from Williamburg.

            Cross said she was doing just fine with insurance bought under a sole proprietor plan that allowed self-employed individuals to pool for coverage with small businesses, a policy unique to New York.

            She said she was paying $568 a month.
            George Schwab, who lives in North Carolina, was notified in a letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield on September 23 that his current plan doesnt meet Obamacares benefit requirements and would be canceled at the end of the year. While Blue Cross did suggest a comparable plan, it was $980 more than what he now pays.

            The President told the American people numerous times that If you like your coverage, you can keep it, Schwab told The Charlotte Observer. How can we keep it if it has been eliminated? How can we keep it if the premium has been increased 430 percent in one year?

            Michael Yount and his wife, a retired couple in North Carolina, buy their individual insurance through Blue Cross Blue Shield and pay about $380 a month with an $11,000 deductible. But they were just informed their new plan will be three times the price, costing them $1,124.50 a month, The Christian Science Monitor reported. The couple said they plan to drop out of formal health insurance, pay the penalty, and self-insure.

            Cindy Vinson in California will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, reports theSan Jose Mercury News. She is an Obama voter who was surprised by the personal impact of Obamacare. Of course, I want people to have health care, Vinson said. I just didnt realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.
            ObamaCare wipes out health care plans in Alabama, New Jersey | Human Events


            • Re: The good news!

              More good news for those with employer sponsored plans

              Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.

              “The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.
              Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare - Forbes


              • Re: The good news!

                Another lie from this administration. Color me unsurprised. They are getting a track record of it.


                • Re: The good news!

                  Who knew a Saturday Night Live skit would be MORE right than the people who are supposed to be in charge of the Owebamacare idiocy.

                  It's a system only designed to support 6 users....remember that from the skit?

                  Turns out the first day it opened...6 is the number of people who signed up.

                  I've said it many a time, God has a sense of humor.