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Obamacare, Otherwise Known as The Affordable Care Act (ACA)

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  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    The start to ending obamacrime - I mean "care" . . . This needs to be finished. Congress should never pass laws that they're exempt from. Laws should apply equally and fully to every citizen. Otherwise we have a lawless group of "lawmakers" . . . like the Mafia.

    The Politicians who voted for it should be on it.

    If it's so good, they should enjoy it's 'benefits' too !

    Take the free pass away from all congress creeps and their staff. Maybe we can find a way so even that idiot pelosi can read and understand it !?!?

    ... yes, the impossible LOL

    Make these idiots in D.C. follow the law the rest of us have to, and watch how fast it disappears !!!

    .... like magic !!!


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    Rep. Ron DeSantis: End 'Illegal' Healthcare Subsidies for Congress

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    When Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010, DeSantis told me, Sen. [Charles] Grassley added Section 1312, which states explicitly that the only health plans available for members of Congress are those created by Obamacare or through an exchange created by Obamacare.

    As a result, the Florida lawmaker noted, Members of the House and Senate were required to live under the law they had passed, did not have access to health insurance subsidies, and made them ineligible for the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program.

    But all that ended in 2013, DeSantis added, when Congress looked to the Obama administration for a bailout and got it from [the Office of Personnel Management].

    He cited the rule from OPM entitled Federal Employees Health Benefits Program: Members of Congress and Congressional Staff which, in DeSantis words, contravened federal law and gave members of Congress and their staffs subsidies on grounds that were untruthful.

    The OPM rule, DeSantis noted, Made it possible for members of Congress to receive their healthcare plans through the D.C. Small Business Exchange, which is, by law, limited to businesses with fewer than 50 employees.With 435 U.S. representatives and 100 U.S. senators, that is far above and well beyond the limit set by the Small Exchange.


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    http://www.newsmax.com/JohnGizzi/Rep.../10/id/783521/

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    "Government medicine" is evil and always will be. The government has NO business in this area of our lives !

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    In the Weimar Republic, preventive medicine was successful in improving the overall health of the volk. But, as economic troubles began, predictably, the state-run health system was gutted until it provided little care, but lots of regulation. Efficiency and cost containment became the order of the day. When given a choice of treating the young producers or the non-productive elderly, imbeciles and disabled children, the government (using expert panels) chose care for the most productive.

    We think of eugenics as a Nazi product, but actually, it was the fashionable science of the progressive movement of the 1920s and 30s. In America, Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and darling of the left, preached her brand of genetic selection. She believed in racial purification through abortion, segregation and forced sterilization. Sanger also wrote in her books about euthanasia of the feeble-minded. At the same time in Germany, 20 years before Hitler, the phrase Life Unworthy of Living was coined by a German physician in a pamphlet on eugenics, and the debate about physician-assisted suicide was raging. Sound familiar?

    By the time the Nazis came to power, the euthanasia fields had been plowed and the grain had been sown. All it took was efficient Nazi organization and a little push to unleash the killing machine we associate with Nazi medicine. Death camps aside, however, for most Germans, Nazi medicine looked remarkably like Obamacare:

    Preventive medicine, cost containment, efficiency (God knows those Prussians were efficient), back-to-nature healthy lifestyle and avoidance of smoking. Hitler himself was the worst kind of anti-smoker: an ex-smoker. (He completely kicked the habit, unlike a former leader we know.) Hitlers research grants led to some of the first documentation associating smoking with cancer. Doctors joined the Nazi Party in droves and were per capita the largest group supporting Hitlers regime. They appreciated the Nazi Partys wellness approach to health care, but they were also bribed by being paid for vaccinations and per capita patient care reimbursement. Prior to Hitler, 60 percent of the doctors were Jewish. When the Jews were forced out of the practice of medicine, it left a lot of room at the top. Medical administration for the doctors left alive in Germany proved lucrative.


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    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg echoed Margaret Sanger when she said, Frankly, I thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations we dont want too many of.

    John Holdren, Obamas science adviser, stated in his 1973 book that a newborn child will ultimately develop into a human being if he or she is properly fed and socialized i.e., not only is a fetus fair game, but infants as well, since neither is human. Peter Singer, a bioethicist from Princeton, said he would kill a baby if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole. He has said that newborns are not sentient beings. Singer and Holdren may not be killers, but their philosophy that dehumanizes some segment of society will allow others to be.

    At the Nuremberg doctor trials, a witness testified that there was no problem getting doctors for the euthanasia program they volunteered. I always wondered how doctors could have done that. I do not wonder now. In the Netherlands today, the No. 1 cause of death of children under 10 years old is euthanasia by a physician. And these doctors are the grandchildren and children of Dutch doctors who went to the camps themselves rather than participate in the Nazi horror. What happened between World War II and now was moral incrementalism. It began when physicians in contravention of the Hippocratic Oath served not their patients, but the state. Discussions about cost effectiveness, efficiency and coverage miss the essence of the problem.

    Government medicine is evil. It makes citizens into dependent children, and it turns once-honorable doctors into tools of the state. Just ask yourself this: When you are in your sick bed, whom do you trust at your bedside a private physician you have hired or a doctor sent from the government?


    http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/government-medicine-is-evil/
    Everything the government controls comes down to rationing. They collect from the mass and distribute as they see fit for the interest of the 1 body, not the individual. This is not America. Whether Obama care is the model of Nazi Germany or a well intended program, Evil is the result.

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    • Originally posted by msc View Post
      Everything the government controls comes down to rationing. They collect from the mass and distribute as they see fit for the interest of the 1 body, not the individual. This is not America. Whether Obama care is the model of Nazi Germany or a well intended program, Evil is the result.
      No, this is NOT America.

      This is still mr. obamas "fundamentally transformed" caricature of ... something.

      We elected this mad bastard twice, lets hope we survive it AND learned something.

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      • How come we never hear lectures directed to the poor, about how Obama Care has harmed the working middle class person, their fellow man? Why is the responsibility "to do the right thing", always on the shoulders of the middle class. The morality shaming is always directed at the middle class. Aren't the poor required to have morality too?

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        • Originally posted by msc View Post
          How come we never hear lectures directed to the poor, about how Obama Care has harmed the working middle class person, their fellow man? Why is the responsibility "to do the right thing", always on the shoulders of the middle class. The morality shaming is always directed at the middle class. Aren't the poor required to have morality too?
          Short answer, No.

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          • Liberal desperation, hypocrisy & stupidity never ceases to amaze.

            Media bias exposed here also, but this has more to do with the death of obama's "care" than anything else.

            That and the president forcing libtards to show themselves for the imbeciles that they are. .

            They seem to truly enjoy making nit-wits of themselves - I ALMOST feel sorry for them.

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            Trent-Adams truly is addressed as doctor since she has a doctorate in Nursing, and she was good enough for the Obama administration to serve as deputy surgeon general, but now, shes just a black nurse, right? The Washington Post joins in the bashing with this headline: Rear Adm. Sylvia Trent-Adams, a commissioned nurse, will serve as acting Surgeon General.

            President Trump got around to replacing Obamas appointee, Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy. Murthy was a huge supporter of Obamacare, and it was time for him to go.

            This, of course, was not a popular move with Obama or his minions in the media who immediately lashed out at Trump and his new appointee. Trump promoted Rear Admiral Sylvia Trent-Adams, who was acting as Murthys deputy surgeon general.

            ....highly educated with a Bachelor of Science in Nursing from Hampton University, an M.S. in nursing and health policy, and a Ph.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore. She also became a fellow of the American Academy of Nursing in 2014. But, thats not good enough for the Trump-hating liberal media.

            Sometimes liberals just want to hate on President Donald Trump. Its a function of their Trump Derangement Syndrome. Take the case of his new Surgeon General appointment, Rear Admiral Sylvia Trent-Adams. Now she should have checked all the boxes one would supposedly would want to make a liberal happy.


            http://madworldnews.com/trump-obama-black-navy-nurse/

            ...... here; https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/u...tion.html?_r=0

            We see how the new york tards write about her. She's "just a nurse" ... desperate retards hiding facts.

            Of course if this were an appointment made by a liberal, we'd see great praise given this choice.

            "Trump did it, cover the facts up as much as possible !" says the liberal press.

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