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Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

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  • Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

    Although you'd never know it by the reporting by the "liberal media" the anti-ACA bubble is about to burst.

    Enrollments are rising.

    A number of states that use their own systems, including California, are on track to hit enrollment targets for 2014 because of a sharp increase in November, according to state officials.

    "What we are seeing is incredible momentum," said Peter Lee, director of Covered California, the nation's largest state insurance marketplace, which accounted for a third of all enrollments nationally in October. California — which enrolled about 31,000 people in health plans last month — nearly doubled that in the first two weeks of this month.
    In states that have functioning websites, like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's Kentucky, the program is working pretty well. Once the federal website has the bugs fixed, people across the nation will be signing up in droves. Soon it will be too well established to roll back.

    Before the ACA, about 17% of Kentuckians didn't have insurance. Come time for McConnell's reelection campaign, that number will be in single digits, thanks entirely to the ACA. So McConnell will be running on a campaign promise to return the uninsured rate back to double digits.

    The ACA is here to stay, providing insurance to millions who never had it before.

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    Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

    Originally posted by jpn View Post

    The ACA is here to stay, providing insurance to millions who never had it before.
    The ACA is definitely here to stay, so far providing insurance to about 111,000 people who never had it before, along with a quarter million new people on Medicare, all while the President is out trying to undermine his own program every step of the way, with an overall cost that won't be known or understood for several years.

    I broke my microwave trying to pop popcorn for the show. Thankfully I've run the math, and the savings from NOT signing up for insurance and continuing to pay my medical expenses with cash will allow me to afford both a new microwave and plenty more popcorn.

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      Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

      Originally posted by jpn View Post
      Although you'd never know it by the reporting by the "liberal media" the anti-ACA bubble is about to burst.

      Enrollments are rising.



      In states that have functioning websites, like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's Kentucky, the program is working pretty well. Once the federal website has the bugs fixed, people across the nation will be signing up in droves. Soon it will be too well established to roll back.

      Before the ACA, about 17% of Kentuckians didn't have insurance. Come time for McConnell's reelection campaign, that number will be in single digits, thanks entirely to the ACA. So McConnell will be running on a campaign promise to return the uninsured rate back to double digits.

      The ACA is here to stay, providing insurance to millions who never had it before.
      Yeah, half of Kentucky looks like it's going to be on Medicaid at the rate they're going.

      Wonder who gets to pay for that....

      I'm sure if you're a functional moron who has great difficulty adding 2+2 you'll think that somehow the actual costs of Owebamacare, which have gone up 5x since the original projections, won't be at least 3x more expensive than the current projections.

      Who gets to pay for that...

      Kind of funny really, kick 5 million people off their insurance, sign up 100k....and call it a success. I guess for government that passes as doing well.

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        Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

        Out of 38 million residents, that's some momentum.

        As of Monday, 79,891 people had so far signed up for insurance through the Covered California exchange. Thursday was the first time The Golden State released a breakdown of who was enrolling, and the initial picture shows a lot more gray hair than surfer blonde.
        Old outpace young in California Obamacare numbers

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          Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

          And now this:

          Obamacare’s 2015 enrollment pushed to after the 2014 elections

          Since enrollments this year are likely to be very dismal, next year's rates will be even higher. Certainly don't want that to come out just before the elections.

          ObamaCare's 2015 enrollment pushed to after the 2014 elections | The Daily Caller

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            Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

            As has been mentioned, it's not about the number on enrolled, it's about who is enrolled.

            The entire program, like every other government entitlement, is dependent on having many more contributors than beneficiaries.

            Unfortunately, for the past 40 years we've been aborting the very same demographic that could have kept such a ponzi scheme solvent.

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              Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

              Originally posted by Commodore View Post
              As has been mentioned, it's not about the number on enrolled, it's about who is enrolled.

              The entire program, like every other government entitlement, is dependent on having many more contributors than beneficiaries.

              Unfortunately, for the past 40 years we've been aborting the very same demographic that could have kept such a ponzi scheme solvent.
              Well, that can be offset by speeding up the immigration process. Comes with the advantage that wouldn't have to wait 20 year, nor have to invest in the raising and education. Comes at other expenses tho.

              Like any Ponzi scheme, it's only a matter of time when it'll collapse, as the source contributing people is not infinite, but the demands of those consuming may very well turn out to be, or at least close to infinite.

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                Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                After spending $305 million and enrolling zero people in Obamacare, Oregon is giving up on its online exchange.

                “I no longer use the word ‘hope’ that something is going to work,” said Rocky King, the Executive Director of Oregon’s exchange. “I am planning to do a full manual system from here through March 31.”

                The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services doled out at least $305 million in federal taxpayer funds over three years while Oregon officials ostensibly prepared the marketplace, according to Americans for Tax Reform. Taxpayers also spent millions advertising the site.

                The state of Oregon has ZERO Obamacare enrollments | The Daily Caller

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                  Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                  With this hate filled thread, jpn officially enters 'Baghdad Bob' territory.

                  Why is so much of liberalism based on 'don't you believe what you see... believe only what I tell you!'

                  Passed that, nothing jpn posted deserves rebuttal.

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                    Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                    Leno says that Obamacare is so bad they have decided to call it Bidencare.

                    Notice how the libs are now referring to it as the ACA and no longer Obamacare?

                    Last edited by OldmanDan; 11-22-2013, 07:33 AM.

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                      Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                      Hold on....hundreds of thousands are losing their health insurance, maybe millions and a few tens of thousands are signing up and you call that a win? Also, what demographic composes the majority of those signing up? The premise is that it's going to take young people, who generally don't need it, signing up in the millions to help keep the costs down for those who need it. Do you honestly think that young people have any money to pay for it? They either don't have jobs; low paying jobs; huge college debt to pay off; or all of the above and are living with their parents.

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                        Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                        Leno says that Obamacare is so bad they have decided to call it Bidencare.

                        Notice how the libs are now referring to it as the ACA and no longer Obamacare?

                        Long standing trend, since the first 'glitch'. Point taken though, even Obama is running away from ObamaCare.

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                          If any of you would have asked me, say a week ago: 'is our jpn smarter than Al Franken?' I would have replied: 'Oh hell yes!'

                          I'm not so sure I can give you the same answer today...

                          Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) says he would be open to a brief delay in the individual mandate if the problems with HealthCare.gov aren't fixed by the end of the month, according to Minnesota Public Radio.

                          "I think then we have to consider extending the deadline for the mandate, but let’s hope that doesn't happen," Franken told MPR.
                          You'd think that if Franken knows... well everyone should know.

                          Of course Al has reason to be concerned...

                          Franken has so far been relatively quiet about potential changes to the health-care law, but he now joins a growing group of Senate Democrats in seats that could be targeted by the GOP in 2014 who are speaking up on the issue.
                          Which leaves us with the prospect that our jpn, is less informed, and further left than Al Franken is.

                          Not a pretty picture...


                          Franken open to individual mandate delay

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                            Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                            Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                            If any of you would have asked me, say a week ago: 'is our jpn smarter than Al Franken?' I would have replied: 'Oh hell yes!'

                            I'm not so sure I can give you the same answer today...



                            You'd think that if Franken knows... well everyone should know.

                            Of course Al has reason to be concerned...



                            Which leaves us with the prospect that our jpn, is less informed, and further left than Al Franken is.

                            Not a pretty picture...


                            Franken open to individual mandate delay
                            I thought those 2 attributes kinda went together.

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                              Re: Demise of the ACA Greatly Exaggerated

                              Originally posted by jpn View Post
                              Although you'd never know it by the reporting by the "liberal media" the anti-ACA bubble is about to burst.

                              Enrollments are rising.

                              In states that have functioning websites, like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's Kentucky, the program is working pretty well. Once the federal website has the bugs fixed, people across the nation will be signing up in droves. Soon it will be too well established to roll back.

                              Before the ACA, about 17% of Kentuckians didn't have insurance. Come time for McConnell's reelection campaign, that number will be in single digits, thanks entirely to the ACA. So McConnell will be running on a campaign promise to return the uninsured rate back to double digits.

                              The ACA is here to stay, providing insurance to millions who never had it before.
                              The demise of ACA is the potential political outcome here, it is not reasonable to rule it out. Right now the Achilles Heel of the legislation is far more than just an erred rollout. When it comes to affordability we are seeing real issues with skyrocketing rates for those you would probably consider your opposition. This on top of those seeing their plans cancelled or at least transitioned into more expensive plans with less choice is a significant issue. For every stat you can find showing some ACA success it is far to easy to find an alternative stat showing real issue. Again, probably for Americans that you and the Democratic Party could not care any less about.

                              The jig is up, now we need far more serious people to get into power and fix what ACA has screwed up.

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