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    France launched its second military intervention within a year on the african continent, this time by dispatching troops top the Central African Republic (CAR), one of the poorest countries in the world in spite of huge reserves in gold, diamonds and uranium and almost torn apart by sectarian violence between christian and muslim militias. The latter are said to get support from countries such as Mali, Libya and Sudan. It is not a coincidence in this that the CAR is a former french colony ( like Mali, where french troops had crushed an islamist rebel advance on the capital Bamako earlier this year) and part of the "franceafrique" former colonial sphere. The UN security council has given explicit backing to the operation and the french operation became necessary after african peacekeeping troops became overwhelmed with the situation. And not only because big questionmarks about future leadership of the country exist, this intervention is assumed to be a long one. The french governement calculates with a year at minimum :


    French troops move to quell violence in CAR - CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC - FRANCE 24



    French Intervention in Central African Republic Risky for Hollande - SPIEGEL ONLINE

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    Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

    It is not going to be easy for them. And what a surprise, it all comes down to Christians and Muslims not being able to get along resulting in extremism, conflict, significant population numbers trying to flee, and of course violence.

    I am curious how many lives will be lost this time around to peaceful religions that cannot seem to coexist.

    Bossangoa, Central African Republic (CNN) -- Months after a coup escalated chaos and violence in the Central African Republic, a French military operation has begun in the capital, Bangui, France's defense minister said Friday.

    The French deployment, along with that of African forces, was unanimously approved Thursday by the U.N. Security Council.

    The council also voted to impose an arms embargo on the Central African Republic, which is east of Cameroon and north of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
    Christians, Muslims take refuge

    Left uncontrolled, militia groups are uniting along religious lines, leading to fears of sectarian violence.

    The situation in Bossangoa, a town about 185 miles north of Bangui that is at the epicenter of displacement resulting from the violence, remained very tense Friday.

    About 35,000 Christians have taken refuge in a Catholic church compound there.

    Members of Seleka have launched grenades at the compound to try to flush out elements of a rival Christian militia, the anti-Balaka.

    Meanwhile, the anti-Balaka are threatening the town's Muslim neighborhood.

    The anti-Balaka began targeting Muslims after tens of thousands of Christians were forced to flee their homes as Seleka militias marauded through the countryside, in a spiraling cycle of reprisal attacks.
    French troops begin operation in Central African Republic - CNN.com

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      Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

      Kudos to France for standing against the Islamic conquest of sub-Saharan Africa.

      One has to wonder why France has not gained the ire of Islamic extremists on their own soil for this sort of thing.

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        Originally posted by Commodore View Post
        Kudos to France for standing against the Islamic conquest of sub-Saharan Africa.

        One has to wonder why France has not gained the ire of Islamic extremists on their own soil for this sort of thing.

        That's a really good question.

        They, it would seem, have among the toughest ant-Islamic laws in the world, never hesitate to stand up to them and they are not being targeted nearly as much as Britain and the US.

        Could it have something to do with showing balls?

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          Originally posted by FearandLoathing View Post
          That's a really good question.

          They, it would seem, have among the toughest ant-Islamic laws in the world, never hesitate to stand up to them and they are not being targeted nearly as much as Britain and the US.

          Could it have something to do with showing balls?
          God what kinda fucked up topsy turvy world is this when its the french showing balls? I thought that died with Chuck

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            Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

            Originally posted by FearandLoathing View Post
            That's a really good question.

            They, it would seem, have among the toughest ant-Islamic laws in the world, never hesitate to stand up to them and they are not being targeted nearly as much as Britain and the US.

            Could it have something to do with showing balls?
            Originally posted by reality View Post
            God what kinda fucked up topsy turvy world is this when its the french showing balls? I thought that died with Chuck
            I'm with reality on this one. If we are saying France is the country running around showing some balls we are all in serious trouble.

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              Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

              Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
              I'm with reality on this one. If we are saying France is the country running around showing some balls we are all in serious trouble.
              Is that a misguided attempt at humour ? France has intervened countless times in subsaharan Africa since the colonial age, imposed and deposed regimes and heads a group of nations also known as "Franceafrique". Francophone african states that provide backing in international institutions as well as ressource supply for France, while recieving "aid" and other kinds of support in return. Among other things France has also taken the task of "policing" states that had fallen in anarchy numerous times ( french troops have ended the civil war in Ivory Coast by capturing the countrys "president" and "convincing" him to resign f.e. or by crushing an advance of islamist rebels in Mali). That is also why, before people get too carried away with the "balls" that the French show against ( in the case of the CAR largely imaginary ) Islamists a probably less known part of the story should be mentioned. It involves Frances energy sector ( around 90 % nuclear), the source of most of Frances uranium ( western and central Africa) and concerns for the security of french investions and Frances energy supply. And two of the main countries of origin for the uranium used in french reactors are....surprise, surprise...Mali and the CAR...:

              What’s Really Behind France’s Sudden Scramble to Save Central Africa



              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7afrique

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                Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

                Originally posted by Voland View Post
                It involves Frances energy sector ( around 90 % nuclear), the source of most of Frances uranium ( western and central Africa) and concerns for the security of french investions and Frances energy supply. And two of the main countries of origin for the uranium used in french reactors are....surprise, surprise...Mali and the CAR...:
                No Blood for Uranium?

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                  Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

                  Originally posted by Voland View Post
                  Is that a misguided attempt at humour ? France has intervened countless times in subsaharan Africa since the colonial age, imposed and deposed regimes and heads a group of nations also known as "Franceafrique". Francophone african states that provide backing in international institutions as well as ressource supply for France, while recieving "aid" and other kinds of support in return. Among other things France has also taken the task of "policing" states that had fallen in anarchy numerous times ( french troops have ended the civil war in Ivory Coast by capturing the countrys "president" and "convincing" him to resign f.e. or by crushing an advance of islamist rebels in Mali). That is also why, before people get too carried away with the "balls" that the French show against ( in the case of the CAR largely imaginary ) Islamists a probably less known part of the story should be mentioned. It involves Frances energy sector ( around 90 % nuclear), the source of most of Frances uranium ( western and central Africa) and concerns for the security of french investions and Frances energy supply. And two of the main countries of origin for the uranium used in french reactors are....surprise, surprise...Mali and the CAR...:

                  Whats Really Behind Frances Sudden Scramble to Save Central Africa

                  Franafrique - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                  No, it is very accurate. If that offends you in some way so be it but even your response tells us the true intentions of France here.

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                    Re: Central African Republic : French military intervenes

                    Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
                    No, it is very accurate. If that offends you in some way so be it but even your response tells us the true intentions of France here.
                    My response was supposed to hint at some less publicized but pretty obvious motives, and that is also why no offense is taken (well, for a moment I was expecting something like the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" line of "joking", but just for a moment .
                    France is hardly unique in coating self interest with altruistic motives though. And there is definitely no shortage of french people that would very much like to see president Hollande show similar determination in reforming his country economy

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                      The campaign in Central Africa is getting ugly : Two french soldiers have been confirmed dead in fighting with sectarian militias, that they seek to disarm. The muslim "Seleka" militia took power in March this year and ousted the french-backed president Francois Bozize, but soon broke apart, with armed groups of militiamen terrorizing the country and its civilian population. And the situation is getting more complicated by a competing and apparently predominantly christian militia, that terrorizes the people of the CAR just the same, known as the "Anti-Balaka". France has pledged to disarm ALL sides, and then to kick off a political process, whose success, given the history of the CAR, remains to be seen. The situation in the capital Bangui at least has improved enough to allow a visit by president Hollande on his way back from Nelson Mandelas funeral :



                      Soldiers killed in CAR

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