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  • Is this who we are ?

    This may not turn out well for the left.

    Many people think the left have become promoters of violent behaviour. They will blame this on president trump.

    Is this how people are taught to handle losing now ? It's certainly how the left is handling it. Listen to the statements made recently by maxine waters ! Listen to many statements coming from the left today !

    As president obama might say; "This isn't who we are."

    Is it ?

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    Poll: 59% believe the left will resort to violence

    A poll by Rasmussen shows that 59% of Americans believe that the left will resort to violence in order to stop Trump. The poll was taken following several high-profile confrontations by the left with high-level White House employees.

    And 31% believe that the U.S. is headed for a second civil war.

    Of those people surveyed, 59 percent say that they're worried Trump critics will become violent; a third of everyone polled said that they're "very concerned" that things will come to that point.

    These percentages of people who think violence will be the direct result of policy disagreement are higher than they were under the Obama administration. During President Obama's second year, 53 percent of people believed his opponents would turn toward violence while 28 percent stated that they were "very concerned" about the potential for violence.

    The partisan breakdown of those numbers is striking:

    Thirty-one percent (31%) of Likely U.S. Voters say it's likely that the United States will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years, with 11% who say it's Very Likely. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 59% consider a second civil war unlikely, but that includes only 29% who say it's Not At All Likely. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Democrats (37%) are more fearful than Republicans (32%) and voters not affiliated with either major party (26%) that a second civil war is at hand.

    But 59% of all voters are concerned that those opposed to President Trump's policies will resort to violence, with 33% who are Very Concerned. This compares to 53% and 28% respectively in the spring of Obama's second year in office. Thirty-seven percent (37%) don't share that concern, including 16% who are Not At All Concerned.

    Most voters across the partisan spectrum are concerned about political violence from those opposed to Trump's policies, although Republicans are the most likely to be Very Concerned. The level of concern is about the same among Republicans, Democrats and unaffiliated voters when it comes to the threat of violence from those critical of the media's coverage of Trump.

    The possibility of political violence against Trump officials and supporters is far larger than the prospect of a civil war. The ideological divide between right and left is sharp, and there is no room for moderation. There is also a significant cultural divide, although it falls short of the kind of schism that was represented by divided views on slavery.

    But the political divide in 1860 was matched by a geographical divide not really present today. We speak loosely of "red" and "blue" states, but in truth, no matter the state, there is a sizable minority from the other side living in the reddest and bluest states. Chances of secession are close to zero.

    While the prospect of a civil war is extremely remote, not so the probability of political violence roiling our streets. One could easily imagine a Democratic takeover of the House and attempts to impeach the president sending hundreds of thousands into the streets, where it wouldn't take much to ignite a bloody conflagration.

    The kind of confrontation between Trump-haters and administration officials we've seen recently is mostly unplanned and spontaneous. But we should be aware that there are those on the left who have been salivating at the opportunity to throw the U.S. into chaos. They may be planning on taking advantage of left-wing protests to goad the right into a violent reaction that would start a cycle of violence that authorities would be hard pressed to stop.

    We saw some of this during the 2016 campaign as Antifa and its allies sought to goad Trump-supporters into fighting back. Imagine that today, with feelings running as high as they are on both sides. It wouldn't take much for both sides to end up at each other's throats.

    With prominent Democrats actually encouraging these confrontations, the chances of violence increases exponentially. With the hysterical left having convinced itself that Trump is a personal threat, it may be inevitable that a Trump official or supporter is targeted and attacked. Further, with the unhinged quality of opposition to the president, how many on the left will actually cheer if a Trump official is murdered in the street or outside his home?


    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...violence_.html

  • #2
    A local event that supports the contention that the alt-left is promoting violence:

    A central Illinois newspaper, the Pantagraph, is carrying this article about Jennifer "Jenn" Carrillo, a community organizer, and an official at the local YWCA who is also a candidate for the town of Bloomington's alderman (member of the City Council). Ms. Carillo posted this on her facebook page:
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    In the article, the Pantagraph notes:
    Carrillo had a history of community activism before going to work for the YWCA last year. She has worked on immigration issues and recently worked with Black Lives Matter to secure the release of two McLean County jail inmates ahead of Mother's Day and Father's Day.
    The following day, Ms. Carillo doubled down once she read of the acrimony over her facebook post (which she almost immediately deleted), before deleting this post as well once she started receiving criticism:
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    In her post on Facebook, Ms. Carrillo supported an alt-left article by Hamilton Nolan in The Splinter:
    I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. Wait until the recession comes. Wait until Trump starts a war. Wait until the racism this administration is stoking begins to explode into violence more frequently.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
      A local event that supports the contention that the alt-left is promoting violence:

      A central Illinois newspaper, the Pantagraph, is carrying this article about Jennifer "Jenn" Carrillo, a community organizer, and an official at the local YWCA who is also a candidate for the town of Bloomington's alderman (member of the City Council). Ms. Carillo posted this on her facebook page:
      2018-06-29_7-41-08.png
      In the article, the Pantagraph notes:

      The following day, Ms. Carillo doubled down once she read of the acrimony over her facebook post (which she almost immediately deleted), before deleting this post as well once she started receiving criticism:
      2018-06-29_7-50-39.png

      In her post on Facebook, Ms. Carrillo supported an alt-left article by Hamilton Nolan in The Splinter:
      I read this from Ms. Carrillo;

      These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. - [ encouraging more leftist/liberal/progressive violence !! ]

      ..and am reminded of what someone here says regularly.

      Alarmist idiocy based on some weird delusion about coming "White Nationalist" Nazi storm-troopers or what-not. They seem to love talking about racists ! Fascists & racists obviously appeal to them somehow, they can't stop talking about them !!!

      They're mad that America has rejected their socialist utopian fantasies by electing the man who promised to undo the hate America first agenda of the previous president.

      So, like three year olds they throw tantrums !!

      מה מכילות החדשות?


      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        I read this from Ms. Carrillo;

        These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse. - [ encouraging more leftist/liberal/progressive violence !! ]

        ..and am reminded of what someone here says regularly.

        Alarmist idiocy based on some weird delusion about coming "White Nationalist" Nazi storm-troopers or what-not. They seem to love talking about racists ! Fascists & racists obviously appeal to them somehow, they can't stop talking about them !!!

        They're mad that America has rejected their socialist utopian fantasies by electing the man who promised to undo the hate America first agenda of the previous president.

        So, like three year olds they throw tantrums !!
        See, I'm sure you already know, this is what we get when they get their mutant sound-bytes from the alt-left media: They all sing from the same song book; often using the exact same phraseology even though they might or might not even know each other (as we see above).

        This is all orchestrated well beyond their grasp and, in that regard, they are drones: Mindless marionettes dancing on the end of someone else's string.

        מה מכילות החדשות?


        • #5
          Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
          See, I'm sure you already know, this is what we get when they get their mutant sound-bytes from the alt-left media: They all sing from the same song book; often using the exact same phraseology even though they might or might not even know each other (as we see above).

          This is all orchestrated well beyond their grasp and, in that regard, they are drones: Mindless marionettes dancing on the end of someone else's string.
          Who will come and say that it is WE who are the puppets of white-nationalist fascist nazi's ! .. and they actually believe this bilge !

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            Who will come and say that it is WE who are the puppets of white-nationalist fascist nazi's ! .. and they actually believe this bilge !
            I wish you would stop trying to tell people what they believe. In fact I don't think you are puppets. I think you are the white nationalist fascist Nazis.No puppets.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              I wish you would stop trying to tell people what they believe. In fact I don't think you are puppets. I think you are the white nationalist fascist Nazis.No puppets.
              Oh Ok.

              Yes, we know this. You have a fetish for nazis, whites and "nationalists." Hope you're feeling better now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                I wish you would stop trying to tell people what they believe. In fact I don't think you are puppets. I think you are the white nationalist fascist Nazis.No puppets.
                Similarly, I wish you would stop telling us what YOU profess to believe (even though I am smart enough to know NO rational person would actually believe what you spew here).

                מה מכילות החדשות?


                • #9
                  Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
                  Similarly, I wish you would stop telling us what YOU profess to believe (even though I am smart enough to know NO rational person would actually believe what you spew here).
                  Rover is no different than Maxine Waters.

                  Ranting crazy B.S. and some are even listening !

                  Every fruitloop on earth can find someone that will listen to and believe them. Take Maxine for instance !

                  She has managed to be taken seriously by a few nitwits who are acting on her rants. So far, no one dangerous. But that's no guarantee....

                  and..

                  Lets try and imagine how todays "media" might go about handling this if a republican had said the same things Maxine Waters has said.

                  ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them – and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." - Mad Maxine Waters

                  And then people started to publicly harass & confront DEMOCRATS.

                  The "media" would be saying that conservatives and republicans are crazy people, knuckledragging THROWBACKS encouraging violence !

                  But it's Ok if some democrat makes these statements. It's Ok if people confront and harass republicans in public.

                  This is the worst, most obvious kind of hypocrisy I've ever seen.

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                  ...it just goes to show what we have said for many years now: that liberals are the most intolerant people in the world when it comes to ideas they disagree with,"

                  At least a few radical leftists have taken Congresswoman Maxine Waters at her word and are confronting Cabinet members in public. The California Democrat is getting a lot of publicity from her recent calls for aggressive confrontations – like this:

                  "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them – and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

                  Her remarks came after one of Trump's Cabinet members – Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen – was confronted by a crowd of protesters while dining at a restaurant.


                  ......

                  https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-...heir-own-doing

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                  Liberals with a "media" that covers up for them are very dangerous.

                  They get away with saying and doing things that no one else in America could say or do.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Rover is no different than Maxine Waters.

                    Ranting crazy B.S. and some are even listening !

                    Every fruitloop on earth can find someone that will listen to and believe them. Take Maxine for instance !

                    She has managed to be taken seriously by a few nitwits who are acting on her rants. So far, no one dangerous. But that's no guarantee....

                    and..

                    Lets try and imagine how todays "media" might go about handling this if a republican had said the same things Maxine Waters has said.

                    ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them – and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." - Mad Maxine Waters

                    And then people started to publicly harass & confront DEMOCRATS.

                    The "media" would be saying that conservatives and republicans are crazy people, knuckledragging THROWBACKS encouraging violence !

                    But it's Ok if some democrat makes these statements. It's Ok if people confront and harass republicans in public.

                    This is the worst, most obvious kind of hypocrisy I've ever seen.

                    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                    ...it just goes to show what we have said for many years now: that liberals are the most intolerant people in the world when it comes to ideas they disagree with,"

                    At least a few radical leftists have taken Congresswoman Maxine Waters at her word and are confronting Cabinet members in public. The California Democrat is getting a lot of publicity from her recent calls for aggressive confrontations – like this:

                    "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them – and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

                    Her remarks came after one of Trump's Cabinet members – Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen – was confronted by a crowd of protesters while dining at a restaurant.


                    ......

                    https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-...heir-own-doing

                    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                    Liberals with a "media" that covers up for them are very dangerous.

                    They get away with saying and doing things that no one else in America could say or do.
                    Yes they must be silenced. Lock them up. Lock them up.Maxine Waters indeed we won't have any more of her nonsense once we take the vote away from the blacks.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      Yes they must be silenced. Lock them up. Lock them up.Maxine Waters indeed we won't have any more of her nonsense once we take the vote away from the blacks.
                      YES !!! Put them all in cages with ... the two year olds at the border !

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post

                        Yes they must be silenced. Lock them up. Lock them up.Maxine Waters indeed we won't have any more of her nonsense once we take the vote away from the blacks.
                        This is what I was talking about in the other thread you started, Cap'n: He cannot sustain an intelligent argument on its own merits (because his arguments have no merit), so faced with an intelligent response, his default is to start with nonsensical, irrelevant posts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
                          This is what I was talking about in the other thread you started, Cap'n: He cannot sustain an intelligent argument on its own merits (because his arguments have no merit), so faced with an intelligent response, his default is to start with nonsensical, irrelevant posts.
                          I know.


                          ...and I probably shouldn't even respond to them for humor as I often do.

                          But sometimes I think he really believes the stuff he posts ! He IS consistent about saying the same crazy things over and over .... ?

                          Whatever, rover is rover -shrugs-

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