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Those Loving and Caring Republicans

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  • Those Loving and Caring Republicans

    Republicans are presented as loving and caring because of supposed charity. Democrats are supposed to be giving of others money. Lets examine where some of the money comes from to be in so charitable a mood, to cause the image of loving and caring. This example will present the use of money rewards to support child prostitution, prostitution, forced abortion, and labor abuses.

    Exactly how does one become loving and caring ... by taking bribes (making money?) through the support of child prostitution, circumventing US laws, forced abortions, and labor camps without running water ... surrounded by barbed wire fences?

    These actions ran to the HIGHEST levels of government ... including .................... The House Majority Leader, Tom Delay and Congressman Bob Ney.

    Pablo Escobar the drug lord was known to be quite charitable ... I hardly see that as loving and caring.

    Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal involves the efforts of Jack Abramoff, other lobbyists, and government officials to change or prevent, or both, Congressional action regarding the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) and businesses on Saipan, its capital, commercial center, and one of its three principal islands.

    Frank Murkowski, then Republican Senator from Alaska and chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, submitted a bill to extend the protection of U.S. minimum-wage labor laws to the workers in the CNMI.

    In testimony before the Senate, it was described that 91% of the private-sector workforce were immigrants, and were being paid barely half the U.S. minimum hourly wage. Stories also emerged of workers forced to live behind barbed wire in squalid shacks without plumbing. A Department of the Interior report found that "Chinese women were subject to forced abortions and that women and children were subject to forced prostitution in the local sex-tourism industry." [2] The Senate passed the Murkowski worker reform bill unanimously. The bill was then blocked by Tom DeLay in the house.

    In 1995, Abramoff, employed at Preston Gates, took on the CNMI as a client. The government sought to retain exemptions from U.S. immigration and minimum wage laws.[4]
    Abramoff later arranged an all-expenses paid trip to Saipan for Tom DeLay on New Year's Eve in 1997.
    An undercover investigation by ABC News captured Willie Tan speaking on a hidden camera about a conversation with DeLay about labor reform laws. According to Tan, "[DeLay] said, 'Willie, if they elect me majority whip, I make the schedule of the Congress, and I'm not going to put it on the schedule.' So Tom told me, 'Forget it, Willie. No chance.'"
    After the trip, Abramoff helped DeLay craft policy that extended exemptions from federal immigration and mimimum-wage labor laws to Saipan industries, though the island is part of the U.S. Commonwealth. Brian Ross at ABC News for 20/20 on March 13, 1998 alleged that factories on Saipan have forced their workers to have abortions in order to keep their jobs.
    In addition, Abramoff's lobbying team helped Rep. Ralph Hall (R-TX) craft statements [8] attacking the credibility of "Katrina," a teenaged sex slave whom federal officials relocated to Hawaii and who testified to federal investigators and Congress about the sex trade on that island, in the process forestalling a federal criminal prosecution. [9]

    The coconspirators:

    List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal involves the efforts of Abramoff to influence Congress concerning U.S. immigration and minimum wage laws. See Legislative branch convictions. Convictions within the Bush administration include:

    David Safavian (R) GSA (General Services Administration) Chief of Staff,[6] found guilty of blocking justice and lying, [7] and sentenced to 18 months[8]
    Roger Stillwell (R) Staff in the Department of the Interior under George W. Bush. Pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence. [10]
    Susan B. Ralston (R) Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Karl Rove, resigned October 6, 2006 after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff.[9]
    J. Steven Griles (R) Deputy Secretary of the Interior pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and was sentenced to 10 months.[10]
    Italia Federici (R) staff to the Secretary of Interior, and President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, pled guilty to tax evasion and obstruction of justice. She was sentenced to four years probation.[11][12][13]
    Jared Carpenter (R) Vice-President of the Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, was discovered during the Abramoff investigation and pled guilty to income tax evasion. He got 45 days, plus 4 years probation.[14]
    Mark Zachares (R) staff in the Department of Labor, bribed by Abramoff, guilty of conspiracy to defraud. [15]
    Robert E. Coughlin (R) Deputy Chief of Staff, Criminal Division of the Justice Department pleaded guilty to conflict of interest after accepting bribes from Jack Abramoff.

    Jack Abramoff CNMI scandal involves the efforts of Abramoff to influence Congressional action concerning U.S. immigration and minimum wage laws. See Executive branch convictions. Congressmen convicted in the Abramoff scandal include:

    Tom DeLay (R-TX) The House Majority Leader was reprimanded twice by the House Ethics Committee and DeLay resigned 9 June 2006.[18] Delay was found to have illegally channeled funds from Americans for a Republican Majority to Republican state legislator campaigns. He was convicted of two counts of money laundering and conspiracy in 2010 and sentenced to three years.[19][20][21]
    Michael Scanlon (R) former staff to Tom DeLay: working for Abramoff, pled guilty to bribery.
    Tony Rudy (R) former staff to Tom DeLay, pleaded guilty to conspiracy.
    James W. Ellis (R) executive director of Tom DeLay's political action committee, Americans for a Republican Majority (ARMPAC), was indicted by Texas for money laundering. [22]
    John Colyandro (R) executive director of Tom DeLay's political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), was indicted by Texas for money laundering [22]
    Bob Ney (R-OH) pled guilty to conspiracy and making false statements as a result of his receiving trips from Abramoff in exchange for legislative favors. Ney received 30 months in prison.[23]
    Neil Volz (R) former staff to Robert Ney, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy in 2006 charges stemming from his work for Bob Ney. In 2007 he was sentenced to two years probation, 100 hours community service, and a fine of $2,000.[24]
    William Heaton (R), former chief of staff for Bob Ney (R), pleaded guilty to a federal conspiracy charge involving a golf trip to Scotland, expensive meals, and tickets to sporting events between 2002 and 2004 as payoffs for helping Abramoff's clients.[25]
    John Albaugh (R) former chief of staff to Ernest Istook (R-OK) pled guilty to accepting bribes connected to the Federal Highway Bill. Istook was not charged. (2008) [26][27]
    James Hirni, (R) former staff to Tim Hutchinson (R-AR) was charged with wire fraud for giving a staffer, Don Young (R) of Alaska, a bribe in exchange for amendments to the Federal Highway Bill. (2008) [28]
    Kevin A. Ring (R) former staff to John Doolittle (R-CA) was convicted of five charges of corruption. Doolittle was not charged

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    Re: Those Loving and Caring Republicans

    Run Forrest Ruuuun. Where are my repubs and conservatives???????

    Isn't this an example of Repubs trying to help others help themselves (love and caring) ... instead of being under the grind of democratic government charity?


    • #3
      Re: Those Loving and Caring Republicans

      Republicans know that if we ditch the social safety nets, charity will not be large enough to stop the suffering. They know this, and they don't care. They don't care because most of them feel that these poor are poor because of their own fault, and they should be punished for it. And it makes little difference if some of the poverty comes from offshoring jobs. They blame this on the unemployed workers for not having a crystal ball to show them what the MNCs would do to them.

      There may be some republicans that actually have compassion, but not that many, or so their actions make it seem. But when republicans think that the greater the wealth that can be built and kept by the rich, that this somehow magically brings prosperity to the non rich, what can you expect from such an ideology? The ideology is deeply flawed, but here again they really don't give a shit. They don't give a shit because their world view is flawed, and they think poverty is always self created, when in fact that has never been the whole story, and never will be the whole story. Perhaps believing in such a delusion makes them sleep better at night, and perhaps they have a conscience resting on delusions.

      The ideology of many cons is an ideology of deep immorality. Yet they will never see that. And I must also say that some of the ideology of the left is deeply immoral as well, like mudering the unborn for convenience, and believing this is the right thing to do. But the left has always wanted to care for the poor using the nation's great wealth, which is what any civilized nation would do, if morality had a place in it. The left is smart enough to know that those who have a surplus are not always apt to give it to care for the poor in our nation. And so they use the tax revenues from these people who have a lot to do what pehaps all of them would never do. If the charity in this nation was sufficient, there would be no need for social safety nets. And we have those nets because of dems like FDR who was tired of the poor and the old suffering as others ate caviar and lit up 100 dollar bills to light up their cuban cigars.

      Delay was an immoral bastard, and too similiar to many other cons in the republican party. These men are the enemies of humanity, yet they take great pride in their immorality. It makes me so ill at times that I literally have to throw up in my toilet. Yet so many call themselves christians! This make me puke the second time, as they worship great wealth when a genuine christian places no value upon wealth and if he were rich he would never keep more than he and his family needed so that other humans might not starve and live miserable lives of poverty. Yet they call themselves christians. A genuine christian is never rich, as his compassion is so much stronger than the love of personal piles of money. Hell is full of republicans and the rich. And you can take that to the bank. A more ungodly people you will never find, outside of the middle east and communists states. Yes, they share so much in common with these other evil beings. And have no place in a civilized world. Their days are numbered, thank GOD.

      So if we are to care for the poor, we have to tax these bastards. Humanity trumps personal wealth of a few elites who's greed affects mankind in very destructive ways. Religion has failed to fetter human greed, and it has made a return with the return of republicans to rule. These men are truly Satan's henchmen. Their actions condemn them. God condemn them, according to the book that christians are supposed to believe in. But these men ignore the sacred teachings, or spin em so as to justify their incompassion, their greed.

      I have such a low opinion of this group of men. But my opinion is based upon their immorality, and nothing more than that. Morality is of the highest importance, and I will fight immorality in the ways that I can. By pointing out the obvious to people who really don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. Someone has to do it. It is a duty to mankind. To the Creator. It is my duty and your duty. It is the duty of the truly religious people of this earth, of which there are so few.


      • #4
        Re: Those Loving and Caring Republicans

        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
        Republicans know that if we ditch the social safety nets, charity will not be large enough to stop the suffering. They know this, and they don't care. They don't care because most of them feel that these poor are poor because of their own fault, and they should be punished for it. And it makes little difference if some of the poverty comes from offshoring jobs. They blame this on the unemployed workers for not having a crystal ball to show them what the MNCs would do to them.
        A. 1st premise is untrue - conservatives care
        B. 2nd premise is untrue - MNCs and off shoring has not been the culprit
        C. Most of your post was you enjoying reading the crap you wrote.
        D. True Christians don't need your pontification to do the right thing.


        • #5
          Re: Those Loving and Caring Republicans

          There was an attempt here to make a highly partisan post ... highlighting leadership on the right, con, pub side of the aisle. Dems are accused of being charitable with government funds to help the poor, I wanted to highlight Republican leaderships (House Majority Leader Delay) alternative charity ... providing child prostitution, forced abortion, and crap labor practices, as a different kind of caring and loving. Given the choice between living quarters with no running water, behind barbed wire, prostitution, and forced abortion ... I'd say the democrats provide a better version of love and caring.

          Of course the child prostitutes ... could earn money selling their body (assuming the children worked hard turning tricks) to support House Leader Delay's financial needs, and ..... eventually save some of their money to advance themselves through the great opportunities available in the US, if they could escape the barbwired compound.
          Last edited by michael h; 10-27-2012, 04:32 PM.