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The Mindset of the Left

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  • The Mindset of the Left

    I appears to me there is a significant difference in the thought processes of the right and the left. I see it as a right brain left brain thing. Where the right puts logic over emotion, the left puts emotion over logic. In the same vein, the left is big on collective responsibility and the right big on personal responsibility. It seems that for every issue there is a right and left side of the issue and in each case, the left wants some form of collective responsibility for the issue where those of us on the right see issues of personal responsibility. This article says a lot about that.


    When teenage thugs are called "troubled youth" by people on the political left, that tells us more about the mindset of the left than about these young hoodlums.

    Seldom is there a speck of evidence that the thugs are troubled, and often there is ample evidence that they are in fact enjoying themselves, as they create trouble and dangers for others.

    Why then the built-in excuse, when juvenile hoodlums are called "troubled youth" and mass murderers are just assumed to be "insane"?
    The Mindset of the Left - Thomas Sowell - Page 1
    Last edited by OldmanDan; 08-01-2013, 11:36 AM.

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    That linked piece is a brief yet rambling mess. The "leftl it alludes to is an indefinite moving target going back centuries. I get the wishful thinking point but it doesn't contrast with the alternative rigid right wing claim of "this is the way things are".

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      Yep, them God fearing patriots are real logical.

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        Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
        That linked piece is a brief yet rambling mess. The "leftl it alludes to is an indefinite moving target going back centuries. I get the wishful thinking point but it doesn't contrast with the alternative rigid right wing claim of "this is the way things are".
        The left that it refers to is the left of today. Those who make excuses for those who will not work, those who will not get an education, those who will not conform to the laws of the land. It describes those who feel but don't think. It describes those who put emotion ahead of logical thought.

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          Originally posted by AJG View Post
          Yep, them God fearing patriots are real logical.
          As is the left.

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            I think the right could the sky is blue and the left would automatically say its pink.

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              Originally posted by AJG View Post
              Yep, them God fearing patriots are real logical.
              Actually they are. And your emotion provoking statement proves my point.

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                Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                As is the left.

                I never said liberals are always a logical bunch, but neither are conservatives. Even on this board I constantly hear supporting gay marriage is promoting pedophilia, abortion is murder, how being anti-war makes you unpatriotic and a coward, how being pro-gun control makes you un-American, and supporting social safety nets of any kind makes you little more than a selfish criminal who steals others' hard earned money. Saying liberals put emotion over logic and conservatives don't is laughable.

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                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                Actually they are. And your emotion provoking statement proves my point.
                This thread is an emotion provoking statement.

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                  Originally posted by AJG View Post
                  I never said liberals are always a logical bunch, but neither are conservatives. Even on this board I constantly hear supporting gay marriage is promoting pedophilia, abortion is murder, how being anti-war makes you unpatriotic and a coward, how being pro-gun control makes you un-American, and supporting social safety nets of any kind makes you little more than a selfish criminal who steals others' hard earned money. Saying liberals put emotion over logic and conservatives don't is laughable.
                  True. There is non logical positions taken by both sides. However, I would point out that many, especially in liberal media, object to any conservative action and within 2 sentences call out concern for the children, related to the issue or not. You can witness in the media time and time again. Playing on emotion to support their argument. This is typically not done by the conservatives.

                  Originally posted by AJG View Post
                  This thread is an emotion provoking statement.
                  I guess that this can be said about a great many things on this board.

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                    Re: The Mindset of the Left

                    It is not a terrible article, but it has a few flaws. The article does make a point on how we label societal problems for purely political interests, and that clearly does exist. No matter if we are talking about calling thugs "troubled youth" or calling illegal aliens "undocumented immigrants" or calling a war on terror "Overseas Contingency Operations." This has been going on for a long time.

                    You could then make an argument that this effort to relabel problems for political purposes could lead to suppression of statistics. We know this has potential as crime statistics by race usually end up in the political spin cycle and we end up with theory like Social Disorganization, Social Control and Subculture of Violence. Sociological and behavioral explanations that are important discussions but in other hands might lead to excuse (for lack of a better word) of what we know of crime statistics by race, or income, or density, etc.

                    Personally, I have no issue calling what all evidence points to a thug as a thug. But the discussion still needs to be had about what factors might change our course. Family can be apart of that, but it appears the article spends less time talking about that and more time talking about "the left." Well, then dives into the traditional 2nd Amendment debate which I happen to agree with.

                    To me it comes down to one of two questions. Are we going to have a meaningful discussion on what is happening in our society? Or, are we just going to go back and forth on "the right" and "the left" debate?

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                      Re: The Mindset of the Left

                      Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                      True. There is non logical positions taken by both sides. However, I would point out that many, especially in liberal media, object to any conservative action and within 2 sentences call out concern for the children, related to the issue or not. You can witness in the media time and time again. Playing on emotion to support their argument. This is typically not done by the conservatives.



                      I guess that this can be said about a great many things on this board.
                      I agree and it's a real shame the Mainstream Media is so biased. But emotional pandering is not unique to liberals and is in fact used just as often by the few popular conservative outlets such as Fox News. But the OP isn't just talking about the liberal media he goes even further insinuating that our thought process is substantially different and that we're somehow wired to be emotionally manipulative.

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                        Originally posted by AJG View Post
                        I agree and it's a real shame the Mainstream Media is so biased. But emotional pandering is not unique to liberals and is in fact used just as often by the few popular conservative outlets such as Fox News. But the OP isn't just talking about the liberal media he goes even further insinuating that our thought process is substantially different and that we're somehow wired to be emotionally manipulative.
                        If one is to believe any of the following, then there really is a difference between how those of the two perspectives view things.

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                          Re: The Mindset of the Left

                          Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                          I appears to me there is a significant difference in the thought processes of the right and the left. I see it as a right brain left brain thing. Where the right puts logic over emotion, the left puts emotion over logic. In the same vein, the left is big on collective responsibility and the right big on personal responsibility.
                          Agreed. It is tiring talking to Leftists. I am beginning to think they are lost; willfully ignorant and a psychologically addicted to the emotional rushes they exude.

                          Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                          That linked piece is a brief yet rambling mess. The "leftl it alludes to is an indefinite moving target going back centuries. I get the wishful thinking point but it doesn't contrast with the alternative rigid right wing claim of "this is the way things are".
                          You get the wishful thinking point ... but rather than, you know, learn from it and understand how it contaminates EVERY single discussion on politics, you reply like a petulant teen asking what about you?

                          Bristling against the way things are is a hallmark of Leftists. They never compare the way things are put to some fantasy that never existed. Perversion of equality is one major example. Women earn 70% of what men do; we are told all the time. Yet, Leftists cannot accept the fact that women do not produce equally to men. A great example is tennis. Women get equal pay for unequal work. Where a women plays almost always 2 sets in under an hour; men often play 5 sets that take over 4 hours. Women get paid about 3x per point that men do. Where are the screams on the Left for this injustice? ... <cricket> ... <cricket>.

                          Yes, defending men against women privilege does not produce the same emotional high. Defending White or Hispanic against Black privilege does not produce the same emotional high - as we see in the Zimmerman trial.

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                            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                            Maybe you're right, but these articles have little to do with how emotionally manipulative conservatives and liberals are. The latimes article claims their studies show "conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments" and "liberals are more open to new experiences". You could say those things that define liberals and conservatives are both their strengths and weaknesses, but they certainly don't insinuate that one is better than the other. But the OP is clearly trying to insinuate that differences in the way liberals think clearly make conservatives better. I have a problem with this because this is not at all based on a scientific study, it's just a personal attack and a lazy and dishonest alternative to attacking policies liberals defend.

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                              Re: The Mindset of the Left

                              Originally posted by JohnLocke View Post
                              Bristling against the way things are is a hallmark of Leftists. They never compare the way things are put to some fantasy that never existed. Perversion of equality is one major example. Women earn 70% of what men do; we are told all the time. Yet, Leftists cannot accept the fact that women do not produce equally to men. A great example is tennis. Women get equal pay for unequal work. Where a women plays almost always 2 sets in under an hour; men often play 5 sets that take over 4 hours. Women get paid about 3x per point that men do. Where are the screams on the Left for this injustice? ... <cricket> ... <cricket>..
                              The screams are the shrieks and grunts coming from the women on the tennis courts. If you've ever heard Maria Sharapova play you would know she is plenty loud enough.
                              Last edited by AJG; 07-02-2013, 08:22 AM.

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