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The New American Center (?)

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  • eohrnberger
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    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
    Then I would have expected it never to see the light of day.

    Very odd this... not so odd that our more to the left posters have ignored it, but that NBC didn't.
    It's not 'on message' for them, so they ignore it?
    The proper speaking points haven't been release from the White House yet?
    The proper speaking points haven't been release from the Biased Lame Stream Media yet?

    Just a few ideas as to why not.

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  • tsquare
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    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    They probably published it for absurdity value. They don't believe it.
    Then I would have expected it never to see the light of day.

    Very odd this... not so odd that our more to the left posters have ignored it, but that NBC didn't.

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  • OldmanDan
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    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
    I'm surprised at how far right 'center' is in this poll... and very surprised that NBC would tell us that.
    They probably published it for absurdity value. They don't believe it.

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  • tsquare
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    I'm surprised at how far right 'center' is in this poll... and very surprised that NBC would tell us that.

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  • eohrnberger
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    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    It's that beltway mentality. Once you get inside the beltway there, you are in a different world. They live on polls, what their aids tell them, what they read in the Washington Post, and what the lobbyists say. They get no input except for a few nut cases like me.
    I've long thought that Washington DC, Congress and the White House specifically, were within a reality distortion field.

    This reality distortion field distorts the reality perceived from the rest of the world to those that are inside the field. Not only are the effects cumulative, in that the longer someone remains within the field the worse the distortion of reality they perceive, the effects are also subtle and almost imperceptible to those afflicted.

    The cumulative effects of the reality distortion field are such that it may take 2 or 3 times the length of exposure within the field for it's effects to wear off. So someone who is within the reality distortion field for a 2 year House term, it may take 4 to 6 years for the effects to wear off, and their perception of reality to return to normal. There have been cases where the effects have never worn off, and the individual is cursed with a distorted perception of reality for the rest of their lives.

    Another symptom common in all cases is that the afflicted person is unaware that they've been affected by the reality distortion field, and they claim to have some sort of inside or special knowledge of the reality that they are perceiving. In each of the afflicted, this has been proven to not be the case. It's only the afflicted person's perception of reality that's been distorted.

    It's very common that the afflicted make very poor decisions and rationalization based on the distorted reality that they believe to be the real reality. This is believed to be a direct cause of legislation and regulation with easily foreseen 'unintended consequences'. However, this aspect of the interplay between legislation, regulation and the effects of the reality distortion field have only been theorized in the last 10 years. Further detailed study of this aspect is required before solid, fact based conclusions can be draw. However, it seems a highly likely, given the high degree of correlation in the data samples analyzed to date.

    The reality distortion field seems to be centered on K-Street, but has an oddly irregular shape that encompasses the Capitol, the White House, and other government buildings near by. The Pentagon seems to be only partially affected, while the NSA is completely engulfed and saturated. The field's highest density, and therefore it's greatest impact, seems to be centered around the White House and Capitol Hill. The outlying areas to a lesser density and therefore a lesser impact. These density deductions are based on the amount of observable reality distortion of the people within these locations.

    It it surmised that the absolute center of the reality distortion field is the White House Press Briefing room, but as there is no distortion field detector at present, this is little more than a theory yet to be proven, although expects in the field are in agreement that it is highly like to be the case.

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  • Blue Doggy
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    Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
    I would argue what the "New American Center" really shows us is how out of touch politicians both left and right (which is to say our two party political system) are from the population. It is no shock polls for Congress and the President are so low, it is also no shock that the majority in this poll showed real distance from our government.
    It shows that politicians are not representing what the people really want. Neither party. Instead we get what a minority wants, which is what the politicians want.

    It shows that the two party system is being controlled by someone other than the majority of the people. But hell, some of us knew that already.

    So the interests being served are different from the interests of the majority of the people. This should show us who this gov't represents, and it ain't us.

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  • OldmanDan
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    It's that beltway mentality. Once you get inside the beltway there, you are in a different world. They live on polls, what their aids tell them, what they read in the Washington Post, and what the lobbyists say. They get no input except for a few nut cases like me.

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  • Sluggo
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    I would argue what the "New American Center" really shows us is how out of touch politicians both left and right (which is to say our two party political system) are from the population. It is no shock polls for Congress and the President are so low, it is also no shock that the majority in this poll showed real distance from our government.

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  • USCitizen
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    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
    I'm going to ASSUME that this was just one, late night massive brain fart, and that you know there is no restricting for the Senate... at all.

    If not, I found your complete idiot for you...
    Yep...very tired.
    On the other hand, you still haven't answered specifically how they botched up those districts they should have planned to win.
    Unless, of course, these are urban areas that are impossible to divvy.

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  • tsquare
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    Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
    How could the Republicans have done such a superb job of redistricting for the House and, at the same time, done such a poor job of redistricting for the Senate?
    Either the people responsible for this are complete idiots, which they are obviously not, as they did such a superb job with the House, there was some sort of back room deal or there are certain rules to redistricting that stopped them from doing so.
    I'm going to ASSUME that this was just one, late night massive brain fart, and that you know there is no restricting for the Senate... at all.

    If not, I found your complete idiot for you...

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  • USCitizen
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    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
    Some of that is 'their' fault... when they have control of redistricting they put themselves in districts that can only elect Democrats.
    How could the Republicans have done such a superb job of redistricting for the House and, at the same time, done such a poor job of redistricting for the Senate?
    Either the people responsible for this are complete idiots, which they are obviously not, as they did such a superb job with the House, there was some sort of back room deal or there are certain rules to redistricting that stopped them from doing so.

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  • tsquare
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    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    Not a Democrat in the House or Senate that would support those things. And yet they keep on being reelected.
    Some of that is 'our' fault... when we have control of redistricting we put them in districts that can only elect Democrats.

    Some of that is 'their' fault... when they have control of redistricting they put themselves in districts that can only elect Democrats.

    There are, right now, very few 'swing' districts out there.

    That said, the battle will be in the primaries... both for the House and the Senate. RINOs are in deep do-do

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  • eohrnberger
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    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    Not a Democrat in the House or Senate that would support those things. And yet they keep on being reelected.
    The famous 'My elected representative is OK, but yours sucks' line of thinking. Truth is the vast majority of them suck, and suck really badly.

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  • OldmanDan
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    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
    Well that's what THEY call it. Let's see what you all think

    The poll claims that 51% of American are "bound by a surprising set of shared ideas."



    It seems safe to assume that among those polled, somewhere around 80% oppose the Immigration Reform Bill that Democrats, some Republicans, and all of NBC is so aggressively pushing.

    Majorities support:

    The death penalty (90 percent)
    Offshore drilling (81 percent)
    80% favor laws that require proof of ID to vote.
    75% oppose "immigration reforms that would provide a path to citizenship for those who came here illegally."
    The end of affirmative action in hiring and education (57 percent).

    Agree that all members of Congress should be subject to term limits.
    Agree that we need to expand exploration of U.S.-based oil and gas reserves to lessen our dependence on foreign oil.
    Doubts the virtues of government regulations, and it’s no surprise when a majority of the center also believes that government is wasteful, inefficient, and should be forced to balance its budget like an ordinary American.

    Overall, the poll found that 28% of respondents are conservative, 20% are liberal, and 55% identify themselves as moderate.

    Now as we all know that (28%) is a low number for conservatives in the USA. But even at that, this poll shows some strong conservative opinions.

    Is that the new American center?

    Who's in the American Center
    Not a Democrat in the House or Senate that would support those things. And yet they keep on being reelected.

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  • eohrnberger
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    Same here. I find very little in that list to object to.

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