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  • Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

    I’ve posted this thread under Poltical Movements because I think that is where it belongs as an example of extremist politics that people should worry about.

    So here we are, this time with another shooting in a public place that appears to have a definite political motive behind it: “a patriot thought that his constitutional rights were being violated, and authorities have said that he was anti-government.

    As LAX shooting unfolded, NJ father called police - SFGate

    The official, who was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity, said the note referred to how the gunman believed his constitutional rights were being violated by TSA searches and that he was a "pissed-off patriot" upset at former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
    Now, I know that if this person claimed to be an angry socialist or some other type of left wing individual, the right on this forum would be all over this story; connecting it to The Weather Underground and some sort of Obama supporting juggernaut trying to usher in a new police state.

    This time we have proof of it going the other way around. One of the right-wingers here started a thread that asked: how long do we have to wait until peace doesn’t work anymore? So, I ask; is this what you’re talking about? Is this what the right-wing means by defeating tyranny and owning an AR15 with 150 rounds to as Ben Shapiro puts it to defeat a government that has turned to usurptation? I mean, this is what right-wing radio calls for; stand up and fight to defeat the tyranny of government! Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, G.Gordon Liddy, Sean Hannity and Alex Jones tell Americans that they must stand up for the constitution and defeat government takeover.

    Some of you will complain that this thread is insensitive and takes a tragic happening way out of context etc etc. But I say not so. I have said many times, that if there is any threat to the 2nd Amendment, it is the right-wing that is bringing it on. I am also holding the right-wing’s feet to the fire here: is this one of your brave patriotic Americans, who has simply ramped up a demonstration of unwillingness to lose his constitutional rights? Is his the first shot in the new American Revolution?

    Should he not be hailed as hero willing to die for his patriotic beliefs? By attacking the socialist takeover of America?

    Isn’t this what you right-wingers want? Strong and serious patriotic Americans who will fight for The Constitution?

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    Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

    That's a very handsome straw man you've constructed. The two of you make a cute couple.

    All indications are that this guy is a wingnut. He is clearly in no way representative of any mainstream political group of any ideology, despite the OP's transparent and feeble attempt to make such a connection. I'd be surprised if we do not learn that he was on psychoactive medications prior to the attack.

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    • #3
      Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

      Now, I know that if this person claimed to be an angry socialist or some other type of left wing individual, the right on this forum would be all over this story; connecting it to The Weather Underground and some sort of Obama supporting juggernaut trying to usher in a new police state.
      Nope!

      regardless of how the whacked out shooter characterized himself, the right on this forum would call him...

      ... Wait for it...

      the whacked out shooter.

      something the ardent left wing zealots chronically miss, particularly when they're attempting to bully the right, is that whacks write what they write because they are whacks. NOT because they are one political ideology or another.

      the easiest way to tell when you're dealing with a whack and not just someone incapable of distinguishing truth from fiction is, the latter is a liberal and the former uses a gun to shoot a lot of people that have nothing to do with his lunacy.

      (̅_̅_̅(̅(̅_̅_̅_̅_̅_̅̅()ڪ

      See?

      Like Matt just did.

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      • #4
        Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

        Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
        That's a very handsome straw man you've constructed. The two of you make a cute couple.

        All indications are that this guy is a wingnut. He is clearly in no way representative of any mainstream political group of any ideology, despite the OP's transparent and feeble attempt to make such a connection. I'd be surprised if we do not learn that he was on psychoactive medications prior to the attack.
        Nope. No strawman at all. Just taking two facts and putting them together to make a very big point.

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        • #5
          Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

          Originally posted by Good1 View Post
          Nope!

          regardless of how the whacked out shooter characterized himself, the right on this forum would call him...

          ... Wait for it...

          the whacked out shooter.

          something the ardent left wing zealots chronically miss, particularly when they're attempting to bully the right, is that whacks write what they write because they are whacks. NOT because they are one political ideology or another.

          the easiest way to tell when you're dealing with a whack and not just someone incapable of distinguishing truth from fiction is, the latter is a liberal and the former uses a gun to shoot a lot of people that have nothing to do with his lunacy.

          (̅_̅_̅(̅(̅_̅_̅_̅_̅_̅̅()ڪ

          See?

          Like Matt just did.
          Oh please.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by jet57 View Post
            Nope. No strawman at all. Just taking two facts and putting them together to make a very big point.
            To counter an argument that on,y you are making. Ergo, strawman.

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            • #7
              Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

              Originally posted by jet57 View Post
              Oh please.
              Are you begging me for a cogent response ... I'd love to help you out, but the simple fact is, you are woefully wrong, I pointed that out to you, and there is no response you can use.

              it's not that I'm that good... It is that you are that chronically wrong.

              <shrug> you just cannot dig yourself out of some of these holes you dig yourself into.

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              • #8
                Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                I’ve posted this thread under Poltical Movements because I think that is where it belongs as an example of extremist politics that people should worry about.

                So here we are, this time with another shooting in a public place that appears to have a definite political motive behind it: “a patriot thought that his constitutional rights were being violated, and authorities have said that he was anti-government.

                As LAX shooting unfolded, NJ father called police - SFGate



                Now, I know that if this person claimed to be an angry socialist or some other type of left wing individual, the right on this forum would be all over this story; connecting it to The Weather Underground and some sort of Obama supporting juggernaut trying to usher in a new police state.

                This time we have proof of it going the other way around. One of the right-wingers here started a thread that asked: how long do we have to wait until peace doesn’t work anymore? So, I ask; is this what you’re talking about? Is this what the right-wing means by defeating tyranny and owning an AR15 with 150 rounds to as Ben Shapiro puts it to defeat a government that has turned to usurptation? I mean, this is what right-wing radio calls for; stand up and fight to defeat the tyranny of government! Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, G.Gordon Liddy, Sean Hannity and Alex Jones tell Americans that they must stand up for the constitution and defeat government takeover.

                Some of you will complain that this thread is insensitive and takes a tragic happening way out of context etc etc. But I say not so. I have said many times, that if there is any threat to the 2nd Amendment, it is the right-wing that is bringing it on. I am also holding the right-wing’s feet to the fire here: is this one of your brave patriotic Americans, who has simply ramped up a demonstration of unwillingness to lose his constitutional rights? Is his the first shot in the new American Revolution?

                Should he not be hailed as hero willing to die for his patriotic beliefs? By attacking the socialist takeover of America?

                Isn’t this what you right-wingers want? Strong and serious patriotic Americans who will fight for The Constitution?
                What a ridiculous rant. No one that I listen to on the radio or see on TV is calling for a violent takeover of the government. While I will agree with you that no one on the left is going to be accused of being a patriot, that doesn't mean that everyone who claims to be a patriot is a violent radical.

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                • #9
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                  This may be workplace violence. If this is his FB page, it says he worked for the TSA in Los Angeles. I did notice that somebody changed his profile picture yesterday afternoon.

                  https://www.facebook.com/#!/paul.ciancia.3

                  It would definitely be more of a workplace violence issue than the Fort Hood shooting if he did work for the TSA.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                    Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
                    To counter an argument that on,y you are making. Ergo, strawman.
                    No Matt; sorry. The right-wing espouses that we should fight a tyrannical socialist movement in this country: by arms if necessary. Well, it's happened.

                    So, is this what the right-wing truly wants? Are they going to come to this man's defense as a true patriot whose fighting for what's right? " A man who took up the cause"!!

                    I think Matt that you know me well enough to see where I'm going . . .

                    The true 2nd Amendment follow through; by a responsible gun owning adult who has an axe to grind with an unconstitutional left-wing socialst tyranical government, and who finally had the guts to do something about it:in a pair of military fatigues so that our fighting warriours were properly represented. "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death[/i]!"

                    It's the true mission of a true American Patriot - isn't it? Here's a guy who put his money where his mouth is! A True Real 'Merican Patriot!!

                    Isn't he a hero?
                    Last edited by jet57; 11-02-2013, 05:28 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                      Originally posted by Texan View Post
                      This may be workplace violence. If this is his FB page, it says he worked for the TSA in Los Angeles. I did notice that somebody changed his profile picture yesterday afternoon.

                      https://www.facebook.com/#!/paul.ciancia.3

                      It would definitely be more of a workplace violence issue than the Fort Hood shooting if he did work for the TSA.
                      Wrong guy dude.

                      Have a drink on me . . .

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                      • #12
                        Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                        Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                        Are you begging me for a cogent response ... I'd love to help you out, but the simple fact is, you are woefully wrong, I pointed that out to you, and there is no response you can use.

                        it's not that I'm that good... It is that you are that chronically wrong.

                        <shrug> you just cannot dig yourself out of some of these holes you dig yourself into.
                        You mus show how I'm woefully wrong.

                        You must show how what I've posted is impossible.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                          Me, I've NEVER heard a caller to Limbaugh, Hannity or Levin say that there's no way the gobmint's gonna take away their shotguns without a fight.
                          Nope...never.
                          Really...never.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                            Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                            No Matt; sorry. The right-wing espouses that we should fight a tyrannical socialist movement in this country: by arms if necessary. Well, it's happened.

                            So, is this what the right-wing truly wants? Are they going to come to this man's defense as a true patriot whose fighting for what's right? " A man who took up the cause"!!

                            I think Matt that you know me well enough to see where I'm going . . .

                            The true 2nd Amendment follow through; by a responsible gun owning adult who has an axe to grind with an unconstitutional left-wing socialst tyranical government, and who finally had the guts to do something about it:in a pair of military fatigues so that our fighting warriours were properly represented. "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death[/i]!"

                            It's the true mission of a true American Patriot - isn't it? Here's a guy who put his money where his mouth is! A True Real 'Merican Patriot!!

                            Isn't he a hero?
                            No, he's not a hero in any way,shape, or form. And all the hyperbole I. You post simply reinforces my contention that you've conjured up a huge straw man here.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Government Tyranny and the LAX Shooting

                              Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                              No Matt; sorry. The right-wing espouses that we should fight a tyrannical socialist movement in this country: by arms if necessary. Well, it's happened.

                              So, is this what the right-wing truly wants? Are they going to come to this man's defense as a true patriot whose fighting for what's right? " A man who took up the cause"!!

                              I think Matt that you know me well enough to see where I'm going . . .

                              The true 2nd Amendment follow through; by a responsible gun owning adult who has an axe to grind with an unconstitutional left-wing socialst tyranical government, and who finally had the guts to do something about it:in a pair of military fatigues so that our fighting warriours were properly represented. "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death[/i]!"

                              It's the true mission of a true American Patriot - isn't it? Here's a guy who put his money where his mouth is! A True Real 'Merican Patriot!!

                              Isn't he a hero?
                              "if necessary"

                              So all leftists are smelly hippies who camp out in the city, commit crimes, and want to outlaw wealth. I guess the rest of you lack the courage of your convictions.

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