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The Reason We Need To End Welfare

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  • The Reason We Need To End Welfare

    Graft Greed and Corruption... with a healthy dollop of bureaucratic mass incompetency

    The early findings of an ongoing review of the Illinois Medicaid program revealed that half the people enrolled weren’t even eligible.
    Not 10%
    Not 20%
    Not 30%

    Half... 50%

    And we wonder why Illinois can't pay their bills... and why the federal government, that pays mush of the bill for Medicaid, is too, going broke.

    Now, a review of the Illinois Medicaid program confirms massive waste and fraud.

    A review was ordered more than a year ago-- because of concerns about waste and abuse. So far, the state says reviewers have examined roughly 712-thousand people enrolled in Medicaid, and found that 357-thousand, or about half of them shouldn't have received benefits. After further review, the state decided that the percentage of people who didn't qualify was actually about one out of four.

    "It says that we've had a system that is dysfunctional. Once people got on the rolls, there wasn't the will or the means to get them off,” said Senator Bill Haines of Alton.
    Of course the state says 'oh, it ain't all that bad. The numbers will get better!'

    But isn't 357,000 bad enough... even w/o any more?

    I need not remind you who comes from Illinois...

    I say end it... end it all. Fire everyone associated with it.


    Audit reveals half of people enrolled in IL Medicaid program not eligible | KMOV.com St. Louis

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    Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

    The question is how far are we willing to go without trampling on people's privacy.
    These systems have to be automated and, quite honestly, intrusive, in order to keep them scam free.

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    • #3
      Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

      Originally posted by tsquare View Post
      Graft Greed and Corruption... with a healthy dollop of bureaucratic mass incompetency



      Not 10%
      Not 20%
      Not 30%

      Half... 50%

      And we wonder why Illinois can't pay their bills... and why the federal government, that pays mush of the bill for Medicaid, is too, going broke.



      Of course the state says 'oh, it ain't all that bad. The numbers will get better!'

      But isn't 357,000 bad enough... even w/o any more?

      I need not remind you who comes from Illinois...

      I say end it... end it all. Fire everyone associated with it.


      Audit reveals half of people enrolled in IL Medicaid program not eligible | KMOV.com St. Louis
      After further review, the state decided that the percentage of people who didn't qualify was actually about one out of four.
      "It says that we've had a system that is dysfunctional. Once people got on the rolls, there wasn't the will or the means to get them off,” said Senator Bill Haines of Alton.
      A state spokesman insists that the percentage of unqualified recipients will continue to drop dramatically as the review continues because the beginning of the process focused on the people that were most likely to be unqualified for those benefits.
      so falling fast

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      • #4
        Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

        This is why welfare should be a state issue. If the federal numbers are anything like this, we will be bankrupted by the freeloaders.

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        • #5
          Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

          I only want to end welfare on the Federal Level. By doing so we still keep welfare in place for those who need it and the citizens at large in a state are more likely to do something about the fraud and waste when it is directly cut from them.

          There will be people we need to help and sometimes the STATE level needs to step in. Federal should never have been a part of welfare.

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          • #6
            Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

            Originally posted by Texan View Post
            This is why welfare should be a state issue. If the federal numbers are anything like this, we will be bankrupted by the freeloaders.
            What do you mean, if?

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            • #7
              Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

              Here's my plan that many of you won't like.
              It's definitely a good plan for the border states.
              We have a one year period where every citizen has to get and carry a US citizen ID card.
              After that year...
              We eliminate welfare AND simultaneously make it legal to hang in public any business owner or politician who has a worker who doesn't have a US citizen ID card on them.
              Of course, it would cost Nassau County a fortune to clean up the bodies.

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                Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                Here's my plan that many of you won't like.
                It's definitely a good plan for the border states.
                We have a one year period where every citizen has to get and carry a US citizen ID card.
                After that year...
                We eliminate welfare AND simultaneously make it legal to hang in public any business owner or politician who has a worker who doesn't have a US citizen ID card on them.
                Of course, it would cost Nassau County a fortune to clean up the bodies.
                Democrats don't even want you to have ID to vote, much less get a job.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                  Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                  Democrats don't even want you to have ID to vote, much less get a job.
                  That's one of the reasons I think they're FOS.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                    What do you mean, if?
                    Read the article the next time... They started with the worst the biggest culprits... The fraud is nothing like half... It dropped to a quarter very quickly...

                    Saying that... What you are calling fraud is low income people trying to get medical care... Going for the sick now...

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                      Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                      Graft Greed and Corruption... with a healthy dollop of bureaucratic mass incompetency



                      Not 10%
                      Not 20%
                      Not 30%

                      Half... 50%

                      And we wonder why Illinois can't pay their bills... and why the federal government, that pays mush of the bill for Medicaid, is too, going broke.



                      Of course the state says 'oh, it ain't all that bad. The numbers will get better!'

                      But isn't 357,000 bad enough... even w/o any more?

                      I need not remind you who comes from Illinois...

                      I say end it... end it all. Fire everyone associated with it.


                      Audit reveals half of people enrolled in IL Medicaid program not eligible | KMOV.com St. Louis
                      According to your link upon further review they found it to be only 25% not 50%.

                      Still that is absurd and needs to be cut out like cancer.

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                      Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                      The question is how far are we willing to go without trampling on people's privacy.
                      These systems have to be automated and, quite honestly, intrusive, in order to keep them scam free.
                      You're applying for taxpayer funds for basic subsistance. You don't get privacy at that point. Especially a healthcare system.
                      Which is WHY gov run healthcare is a bad idea. Because you make them entitled to your private info by getting them to foot the bill.

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                        Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                        Originally posted by reality View Post
                        According to your link upon further review they found it to be only 25% not 50%.

                        Still that is absurd and needs to be cut out like cancer.

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                        You're applying for taxpayer funds for basic subsistance. You don't get privacy at that point. Especially a healthcare system.
                        Which is WHY gov run healthcare is a bad idea. Because you make them entitled to your private info by getting them to foot the bill.
                        We also spend a good amount of tax money on auditing businesses, both private and public; do they get privacy?

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                          Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                          Originally posted by reality View Post
                          According to your link upon further review they found it to be only 25% not 50%.

                          Still that is absurd and needs to be cut out like cancer.
                          They hope it drops to 25%.

                          It is 50% of all audited precipitants as of right now.

                          But yeah... even at 25% it needs to end. Now.

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                            Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                            Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
                            Saying that... What you are calling fraud is low income people trying to get medical care... Going for the sick now...
                            No... I call nothing fraud... government auditors are calling it fraud... people that are not entitled to receive these benefits got them.

                            Non-low income people.

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                              Re: The Reason We Need To End Welfare

                              Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
                              Read the article the next time... They started with the worst the biggest culprits... The fraud is nothing like half... It dropped to a quarter very quickly...

                              Saying that... What you are calling fraud is low income people trying to get medical care... Going for the sick now...
                              19,000 "return to sender" on postcards sent out to welfare recipients. I call that fraud since you are required to keep your address current with the welfare system. It has nothing to do with your strawman about medical care.

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