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Obama Should Take A Well Deserved Victory Lap

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  • #31
    Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post


    The problem is the Obama plan is the same as the plan by many other nations including the UK to deal with Iran so it's not just a crazy whacked out scheme by him alone.
    As was shown on the Daily Show Israel has been saying Iran is an imminent threat for decades and yet Iran has not attacked so why should we go in now?
    The plan is for UN oversight of the nuclear program which doesn't seem at all silly and in return they get slightly lifted sanctions so they can start growing the economy I don't see why conservatives are so enraged by such a proposal unless they are wanting another conflict.
    that Obama is mimicking other countries doesn't make the plan any the less a "crazy whacked out scheme." It simply means Obama climbed into a boat that already had others in it.

    The reason conservatives are so enraged over the plan is because Obama wants to give them back their money without them having to comply with anything, really ... that and the obvious that "UN Oversight" has seldom amounted to anything very persuasive (witness Saddam Hussein's plight admitting the UN inspectors).

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    • #32
      Take another lap
      Americans Not in Labor Force Exceed 93 Million for First Time; 62.7% Labor Force Participation Matches 37-Year Low


      April 3, 2015 - 8:58 AM

      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-...27-labor-force



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      • #33
        Of the 37.3% left do we know how many are retired (there are loads more retired now than 30 years ago) or are children who you can hardly blame for not being in work unless you want children and retired people to work.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
          Of the 37.3% left do we know how many are retired (there are loads more retired now than 30 years ago) or are children who you can hardly blame for not being in work unless you want children and retired people to work.
          Labor force calculations include those that are able to and looking for work. People who have retired should not be in those numbers.

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          • #35
            I hope this works but there's a nice graph about US, UK and German employment rate for the last 10 years and it makes interesting reading.

            https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...mployment+rate

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            • #36
              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
              I hope this works but there's a nice graph about US, UK and German employment rate for the last 10 years and it makes interesting reading.

              https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...mployment+rate

              I don't know how your rates are calculated but those our government puts out mean nothing. They are totally bogus. If someone gives up looking for work, they are no longer counted as unemployed whether they have a job or not.

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              • #37
                Is that why you keep banging on about the numbers for people like Reagan or are his numbers ok?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                  Of the 37.3% left do we know how many are retired (there are loads more retired now than 30 years ago) or are children who you can hardly blame for not being in work unless you want children and retired people to work.
                  That's not the way that U-6 unemployment calculation works. U-6 includes unemployed individuals seeking full-time employment (the familiar unemployment rate known as U-3), but it also includes individuals who are marginally attached -- like those who stopped looking for employment but want to work.

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                  • #39
                    Another reason for a victory lap.

                    NCIS investigation reportedly shows Bergdahl had 'deliberate plan' to 'offer himself up' to the Taliban
                    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...new-questions/

                    Obama traded Bergdahl for 5 really bad guys from GITMO knowing since 2009 that Bergdahl was a traitor. The White House and State Department defended Bergdahl and his honorable service to the US. This was all done just to get 5 guys out of GITMO that no free country in the world would take and get us closer to closing GITMO. This Administration is either totally inept or totally ignorant, either way, it will be a blessing when this crew is out of the White House.

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                    • #40
                      THREE MORE LAPS FOR THE BIG o


                      AMERICANS NOT IN LABOR FORCE HITS NEW RECORD HIGH: 93,194,000



                      For the second month in a row, the number of people not in the workforce hit another record high in April, according to jobs data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
                      April saw the number of people dropping out of the labor force increase from March’s record 93,175,000 to a new record: 93,194,000 people not in the workforce.
                      http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...high-93194000/


                      RECORD 56,167,000 WOMEN OUT OF LABOR FORCE

                      A record number of women were not in the labor force in April, according to numbersreleased Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
                      Last month, the number of women not in the workforce increased from the previous record of 56,131,000, registered in March, to a new record of 56,167,000.
                      http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...f-labor-force/


                      ALL NET EMPLOYMENT GAINS AMONG WOMEN WENT TO FOREIGN-BORN SINCE RECESSION


                      Since the beginning of the recession in December 2007 to April 2015, 1.37 million more immigrant women are employed — from 9,041,000 in December 2007 to 10,413,000 in April 2015.
                      Native-born women, on the other had saw net employment decline by 143,000 in that same timeframe. From 59,322,000 in December 2007 to 59,179,000 last month.
                      http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nce-recession/

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                      • #41
                        This is silly. The only way any person could make such claims, is to IGNORE what both political parties have done to this nation beginning in the 70s, but really going into overdrive in the 80s, when it comes to our economy. Even today as reported on Drudge this morning, only two republicans have read TPP. Why read it? For they know the negotiations were done by private sector lawyers on behalf of the elites, and since these elites are dictating what is in trade policy, which is kept highly secretive from americans, why should congress waste their time reading it? They know they just have to vote on it for this is what the people who finance their campaigns demand, and so they will get it.

                        If Obama had actually been a progressive and for the interests of the non elites, the republicans would have crucified him. And you would be right in there supporting that. So this is just outrageously silly, your contentions. Even when he has acted like a Neo Liberal republican, he has still gotten crucified, due to petty partisanship.

                        IMO, most repub and dem voters are detached from reality, and mired upon in tribalism, as this nation, composed of average working people no longer serves their interests, and most are too stupid to even have the ability to see it.

                        Ok, I am out of this discussion, now you two tribes fight about nonsense.

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                        • #42
                          Take another lap"
                          Blame It on Global Cooling? Obama Has Lowest Average 1stQ GDP Growth of Any President on Record

                          http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence-...gdp-growth-any

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                            This is silly. The only way any person could make such claims, is to IGNORE what both political parties have done to this nation beginning in the 70s, but really going into overdrive in the 80s, when it comes to our economy. Even today as reported on Drudge this morning, only two republicans have read TPP. Why read it? For they know the negotiations were done by private sector lawyers on behalf of the elites, and since these elites are dictating what is in trade policy, which is kept highly secretive from americans, why should congress waste their time reading it? They know they just have to vote on it for this is what the people who finance their campaigns demand, and so they will get it.

                            If Obama had actually been a progressive and for the interests of the non elites, the republicans would have crucified him. And you would be right in there supporting that. So this is just outrageously silly, your contentions. Even when he has acted like a Neo Liberal republican, he has still gotten crucified, due to petty partisanship.

                            IMO, most repub and dem voters are detached from reality, and mired upon in tribalism, as this nation, composed of average working people no longer serves their interests, and most are too stupid to even have the ability to see it.

                            Ok, I am out of this discussion, now you two tribes fight about nonsense.
                            But what's there to fight about ?

                            Truth is we have criminals running America into the shithouse and the majority of America is too fucking dumb to know it.

                            Kind of the same thing you said.

                            Can this puzzle be solved ?

                            ... guess we're going to find out.

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                            • #44
                              Maybe another lap:
                              RECORD 93,770,000 AMERICANS NOT IN LABOR FORCE

                              Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 38-Year Low

                              RECORD 56,209,000 WOMEN NOT IN LABOR FORCE

                              Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007

                              http://www.drudgereport.com/


                              Lets hear it for Obama! Hip, Hip, .......................



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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                                Maybe another lap:
                                RECORD 93,770,000 AMERICANS NOT IN LABOR FORCE

                                Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 38-Year Low

                                RECORD 56,209,000 WOMEN NOT IN LABOR FORCE

                                Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007


                                http://www.drudgereport.com/


                                Lets hear it for Obama! Hip, Hip, .......................


                                Honestly if there were not an upcoming election, with a few that I could actually vote for and not just by default, I think I would have to just learn to play the game. It's exhausting to continue to fight while suffering the lashes due to principals, hope, and the dream of an American way of life. Sadly if a Dem or an establishment Republican wins, I might just have to abide by the old saying, if you can't beat em, join em. This country no longer functions on principal, honor, truth and integrity. We might as well delete those words from the dictionary. Thinking this election may be the Hail Mary for me.

                                It's kinda like buying a lottery ticket and dreaming of things you'd with the money. Yes a long shot, but as long as the ticket is in your hands and the winner is not yet called, there's a chance that it could be a reality. I occasionally buy a lottery ticket, when I need a few days to dream. But of course when they call the winner and it is not me, as anticipated, it's back to the status quo.

                                If we loose this election, it is back to the status quo or worse, and 4 years is just to long to begin a new dream.

                                Election day 2016 will define much for me and how to go on living in this country without remaining frustrated and in disbelief of what America has become, for the rest of my days.
                                Last edited by msc; 08-08-2015, 12:00 PM.

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