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  • Obama's war on women?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/us...ees.html?_r=1&


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    A lot has been made of this over the last few days by the axillary media and the web. But i did not see a thread on this so must start one and ask the question given that obama ran on the "rights war on women", passed the Ledbetter act and is the messiah to the left...Why is he given a pass by the main stream tv media? Why are his supporters not up in arms about this? I mean i have actually heard liberals on MSNBC and other networks defend him not excoriate him for his actions.

    IMO this president has a bad problem of telling others how they must live.. and not applying it to his own conduct. I also think he is the biggest hypocrite ever to rule this nation and i further forward that if this was a Mitt Romney Whitehouse and he did not use the "binders of women" and fill some slots and if he did not have a representative ethnicity on his staff of all others .. there would be hell to pay in the press and on the left
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    Re: Obama's war on women?

    They give him a pass on everything. The MSM is in love with the man. Were he a Republican, he would be crucified for this and a whole lot of other things.

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      Re: Obama's war on women?

      Rules are for everyone else... not for the liberal elites.

      Hell boys and girls, that's why they pass new laws and raise taxes and all that... they never intend on obeying the laws or paying the taxes... so it isn't a big deal to demand everyone be 'diverse' if you don't plan to do it anyway.

      and like Dan said: who's going to call him out for it? That's right... nobody.

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      • #4
        Re: Obama's war on women?

        Oh, poo! If he were crucified by the press, you'd accuse him of having a Messiah complex. Or of enjoying it too much, or of turning darker under the sun (calling Time Magazine - was it, back when?), or of delivering his own perfect funeral oration in rhymed couplets, or some verdamte thing.

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          Re: Obama's war on women?

          Originally posted by Rakkasan View Post
          http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/us...ees.html?_r=1&


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          A lot has been made of this over the last few days by the axillary media and the web. But i did not see a thread on this so must start one and ask the question given that obama ran on the "rights war on women", passed the Ledbetter act and is the messiah to the left...Why is he given a pass by the main stream tv media? Why are his supporters not up in arms about this? I mean i have actually heard liberals on MSNBC and other networks defend him not excoriate him for his actions.

          IMO this president has a bad problem of telling others how they must live.. and not applying it to his own conduct. I also think he is the biggest hypocrite ever to rule this nation and i further forward that if this was a Mitt Romney Whitehouse and he did not use the "binders of women" and fill some slots and if he did not have a representative ethnicity on his staff of all others .. there would be hell to pay in the press and on the left
          Well, this would have at least as much validity as the alleged 'Republican War on Women'. Of course our ever fair and unbiased Lame Stream Media will provide it equal coverage, right? <sarcasm>

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            Re: Obama's war on women?

            Originally posted by hoosier88 View Post
            Oh, poo! If he were crucified by the press, you'd accuse him of having a Messiah complex. Or of enjoying it too much, or of turning darker under the sun (calling Time Magazine - was it, back when?), or of delivering his own perfect funeral oration in rhymed couplets, or some verdamte thing.
            Oh, I'm sure there is something that I would not criticize him for.

            Not that I can think of anything right now... but still.

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              Re: Obama's war on women?

              Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
              ahoy Rakkasan,

              a good story and a legitimate complaint, matey. Mr. Obama (i feel like a broken record) be no liberal - so this story isn't much 'o a surprise to me (and also, it means i don't see'm as a hypocrite). he doesn't care much 'bout racial issues or gender issues either. 'tis just an endless parade 'o white fellas.

              ye gotta love the New York Times, once more it reinforces me conviction that its the greatest newspaper in the country.

              - MeadHallPirate
              So you are saying that Conservatives hate women? I'll bet a lot of very Conservative women would disagree with that.

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                Re: Obama's war on women?

                Originally posted by Rakkasan View Post

                A lot has been made of this over the last few days by the axillary media and the web. But i did not see a thread on this so must start one and ask the question given that obama ran on the "rights war on women", passed the Ledbetter act and is the messiah to the left...Why is he given a pass by the main stream tv media? Why are his supporters not up in arms about this? I mean i have actually heard liberals on MSNBC and other networks defend him not excoriate him for his actions.

                IMO this president has a bad problem of telling others how they must live.. and not applying it to his own conduct. I also think he is the biggest hypocrite ever to rule this nation and i further forward that if this was a Mitt Romney Whitehouse and he did not use the "binders of women" and fill some slots and if he did not have a representative ethnicity on his staff of all others .. there would be hell to pay in the press and on the left
                I must be missing something as I'm not seeing the issue here. Of his six most senior White House Executive Office staff, three are women, which equates to 50%. Executive Office of the President | The White House

                Of the 15 Cabinet members (excluding the VP), five are women (33%) (including Rebecca Blank, as acting Secretary of Commerce). Of the six Cabinet-level roles, three are women (50%). The Cabinet | The White House

                Yup, Obama's administration is truly non-representative of women<insert sarcasm="" here="">; granted he could have a few more women in the Cabinet, but in the first four year of his administration he has already equalled the total number of women in the Cabionet/cabinet-level of George W. Bush's two administrations combined = 8, and there's still four more years to go.

                Like I said, I'm missing the issue here. Or perhaps the issue is just another opportunity for Rakkasan to clutch at his straws to make an argument against his president. Hmmm...</insert>

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                  Re: Obama's war on women?

                  Originally posted by noahath View Post
                  Like I said, I'm missing the issue here. Or perhaps the issue is just another opportunity for Rakkasan to clutch at his straws to make an argument against his president. Hmmm...</insert>
                  So... Rakkasan writes for the New York Times? That is the source of the complaint...

                  From the Times:

                  In the days since, Mr. Obama has put together a national security team dominated by men, with Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts nominated to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton as the secretary of state, Chuck Hagel chosen to be the defense secretary and John O. Brennan nominated as the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Given the leading contenders for other top jobs, including chief of staff and Treasury secretary, Mr. Obama’s inner circle will continue to be dominated by men well into his second term.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Obama's war on women?

                    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                    So you are saying that Conservatives hate women? I'll bet a lot of very Conservative women would disagree with that.
                    I think that a reasonable argument can be made to say that Republican (rather than conservative) politicians don't necessarily embrace women as political leaders.

                    In the Senate, there are no Republican women in the Party's leadership group; the Dems have four. In the House there are six Democratic women in their leadership group, compared with just three Republican women. Both the Democratic Party in the House, and the National Democratic Party are chaired by women.

                    There's also a huge gulf when it comes to committee chairmanships. Of the 20 senate committees (excluding joint-committees), Democratic women chair 8 of them; on the Republican side there are just two female ranking minority members (Murkowski and Collins). In the House, of the 21 committees (excluding joint committees), just one is chaired by a Republican woman (House Administration). At the same time, five Democratic women are ranking minority members (Appropriations, Ethics, Financial Services, Rules, Small Business). For the first time in history also, the Chair of the Senate Appropriations committee is a woman, and the ranking member of the House Appropriations Committee is a woman - both are Democrats.

                    In the 113th Congress, there are 20 women in the Senate, only four of whom are Republicans. In the House there are 78 women; 58 of women are Democrats.

                    Based on this evidence it is easy to see why people make the assumptions of about just where the Republican Party stands when it comes to embracing women in politics.

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                      Re: Obama's war on women?

                      Originally posted by noahath View Post
                      I think that a reasonable argument can be made to say that Republican (rather than conservative) politicians don't necessarily embrace women as political leaders.

                      In the Senate, there are no Republican women in the Party's leadership group; the Dems have four. In the House there are six Democratic women in their leadership group, compared with just three Republican women. Both the Democratic Party in the House, and the National Democratic Party are chaired by women.

                      There's also a huge gulf when it comes to committee chairmanships. Of the 20 senate committees (excluding joint-committees), Democratic women chair 8 of them; on the Republican side there are just two female ranking minority members (Murkowski and Collins). In the House, of the 21 committees (excluding joint committees), just one is chaired by a Republican woman (House Administration). At the same time, five Democratic women are ranking minority members (Appropriations, Ethics, Financial Services, Rules, Small Business). For the first time in history also, the Chair of the Senate Appropriations committee is a woman, and the ranking member of the House Appropriations Committee is a woman - both are Democrats.

                      In the 113th Congress, there are 20 women in the Senate, only four of whom are Republicans. In the House there are 78 women; 58 of women are Democrats.

                      Based on this evidence it is easy to see why people make the assumptions of about just where the Republican Party stands when it comes to embracing women in politics.
                      Is it the party? Or is it the people voting for those who represent them?

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                        Re: Obama's war on women?

                        Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                        So... Rakkasan writes for the New York Times? That is the source of the complaint...
                        Ok, I see the issue now. As it stands, the National Security team has no women, but I suspect that in coming weeks either Susan Rice or Michelle Flournoy will be named to succeed Tom Donilon, and Janet Napolitano though is Secretary of Homeland Security. Even so, women have never been able to really break the glass ceiling of national security roles, and I suspect it will still be some years before we see a female Defence secretary. Still, the whole time Bush was in office he had just one woman in his national security team, so whilst Obama is no better at this stage of his administration, he's certainly on par with Bush.

                        I know there'll be rhetoric from the conservative side of politics, but I suspect part of this reason this is being made an issue is because the Republican Party is trying to address its "women problem" buy firstly pointing out some flaws with the Democrats. The thing is though that it just won't wash.

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                          Re: Obama's war on women?

                          Originally posted by CharlesD View Post
                          Is it the party? Or is it the people voting for those who represent them?
                          IMO it's both.

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                            Re: Obama's war on women?

                            Originally posted by noahath View Post
                            IMO it's both.
                            I have never felt comfortable voting republican, but I am not a bit comfortable with Obama. I guess my problem is I have leanings left and leanings right. I voted for Clinton the first time before it became known he was a morally corrupt degenerate. He was fiscally a pretty good president. In fact the only republicans I ever voted for were Reagan and Bush II. I wrote in an old time Democrat for this past election, former Sen Sam Nunn.

                            I believe in progressive income taxation.
                            I believe in caring for the TRULY needy.
                            I believe in good PUBLIC education.
                            I believe in strong infrastructure.
                            I believe in personal liberty to the point up to the rights of the next person.
                            I believe in a strong defense.
                            I believe in medical care for all.
                            I believe in equal rights, but I believe all rights have responsibilities.
                            I believe in ALL of our Bill of Rights and what they guarantee. So far the ones which seem to be under attack or already subverted are the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendments.
                            There are some on this board who call me conservative, and some who call me liberal.

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                              Re: Obama's war on women?

                              Originally posted by noahath View Post
                              I must be missing something as I'm not seeing the issue here. Of his six most senior White House Executive Office staff, three are women, which equates to 50%. Executive Office of the President | The White House

                              Of the 15 Cabinet members (excluding the VP), five are women (33%) (including Rebecca Blank, as acting Secretary of Commerce). Of the six Cabinet-level roles, three are women (50%). The Cabinet | The White House

                              Yup, Obama's administration is truly non-representative of women<insert sarcasm="" here="">; granted he could have a few more women in the Cabinet, but in the first four year of his administration he has already equalled the total number of women in the Cabionet/cabinet-level of George W. Bush's two administrations combined = 8, and there's still four more years to go.

                              Like I said, I'm missing the issue here. Or perhaps the issue is just another opportunity for Rakkasan to clutch at his straws to make an argument against his president. Hmmm...</insert>

                              like i said I see a lot of liberals defending him who would be killing a republican president... and it is more than women my non friend... how about ethnicity?

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