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    Obama to Governors: '...Clear Out the Press So We Can Take Some Questions'


    After saying he looked forward to working with the governors to build a thriving middle class," Obama said: Thats our goal, and I know thats the goal of all of you as well. So I look forward to our partnering--and with that, what I want to do is clear out the press so we can take some questions."
    Obama to Governors: '...Clear Out the Press So We Can Take Some Questions' | CNS News


    It seems that as every day goes buy, this administration tries to hide more and more. What happened to the most transparent government in the history of the country?

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    Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

    Transparency is as subjective as anything else a politician says these days. If I leave myself open to the public 4% of the time in whatever way (press conferences, meetings with constituents, lack of closed door meetings, etc.) Beating out my predecessors who may have been open to the public say 2% of the time. Then I can say I have the most transparent administration in history. But in reality I am still closed off and shielded from the public 96% of the time.

    Now, I have made all of this up just to show a point here. It is not attacking nor defending Obama either.

    Just saying the most transparent administration ever just means being more open than previous administrations, and it is not really even something by measure. Just a mic time phrase on Obama's part, which means we should take as such.

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      Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

      Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
      ahoy OldmanDan,

      Nixon

      Carter

      Ford

      Reagan

      HW Bush

      Clinton

      W Bush

      Obama

      them be our presidents 'o recent history. which one 'o them was the most "transparent" and how did ye come to yer conclusions?

      - MeadHallPirate
      I don't think any of them were. Obama was the one to claim to change that. Remember, Hope and Change.

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      • #4
        Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

        Whenever I read things like this my bullshit detector goes off and so I investigate the story to see the full context of what really happened. Which is really easy with google.

        And I happened upon this website for the The National Governors Association

        The National Governors Association Website

        And there I happened upon an article detailing the itinerary of the meeting of the NGA with the President, where upon I found this little tidbit.

        Sunday evening, governors and their spouses will join the President and Mrs. Obama at the White House. The following day, governors will return for meetings with the President and Vice President.

        Prior to the Monday meeting at the White House, governors will meet in a closing session to consider the NGA policy positions. They also will hear from Dr. Mehmet Oz, host of the The Dr. Oz Show. Throughout the meeting, there also will be Governors-Only sessions to provide governors the opportunity for dialogue among themselves.
        Hmmm......

        And CNSnews.....gee are they part of that liberal media bias?

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        • #5
          Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

          Originally posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
          Whenever I read things like this my bullshit detector goes off and so I investigate the story to see the full context of what really happened. Which is really easy with google.

          And I happened upon this website for the The National Governors Association

          The National Governors Association Website

          And there I happened upon an article detailing the itinerary of the meeting of the NGA with the President, where upon I found this little tidbit.



          Hmmm......

          And CNSnews.....gee are they part of that liberal media bias?
          Governors only. Is Obama now a governor?

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          • #6
            Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

            Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
            ahoy OldmanDan,

            okies, so yer disillusioned by Mr. Obama - sayin' he's not that different from, like, every other president 'o me lifetime.

            by the way, every POTUS that i mentioned promised a more transparent Government.

            - MeadHallPirate
            Yeah, they all did it so Obama gets a pass.

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            • #7
              Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

              I don't know about all of you, but the transparency of this administration is becoming clearer each and every day where the president goes out and fear mongers over spending cuts and demands the revenue increases that he wants, sowing the seeds of success envy and class warfare as opposed to leading and uniting the people in a common cause.

              Yup. Pretty transparent.

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              • #8
                Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
                ahoy OldmanDan,

                aye he does.

                what would ye prefer?

                that every modern day POTUS gets a pass on this issue but we burn Mr. Obama at the stake fer doin' the same thing?

                - MeadHallPirate
                Show me where previous presidents made a campaign issue of transparent government.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                    Umm, Most Transparent Administration Ever. Yeah, right. Keep believing that, 'cause it's not the case.

                    FOIA Requests Being Denied More Due To Security Reasons Than Any Time Since Obama Took Office
                    A little secret about Obama's transparency - Los Angeles Times
                    An Obama secret: They're rejecting more Freedom of Information requests than those secretive Bush folks - latimes.com
                    Obama administrations FOIA record worse than Bushs

                    There's more to running a transparent administration than just posting your propaganda up on the White House web site (for all the kool aid drinkers), or doesn't this administration realize that?

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                      You know, these presidental canidates are idealistic before they win. After they win and they take the place of the old cog in the gears of gov 't, they discover that they are the only ones who want this or that, and have to conform to fit in with the deciet and the way things are done at that level. Seems to happen time and time again.

                      Transparency is quickly used by the opposing party to tear the man down, and aiding them isn't very smart. Perhaps when old Mitch said the number one job of the senate was to keep obama to one term, the admin decided transparency would only aid the repubs in their endeavors with their personal attacks.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                        You know, these presidental canidates are idealistic before they win. After they win and they take the place of the old cog in the gears of gov 't, they discover that they are the only ones who want this or that, and have to conform to fit in with the deciet and the way things are done at that level. Seems to happen time and time again.

                        Transparency is quickly used by the opposing party to tear the man down, and aiding them isn't very smart. Perhaps when old Mitch said the number one job of the senate was to keep obama to one term, the admin decided transparency would only aid the repubs in their endeavors with their personal attacks.
                        Blue, and that'd be fine if it was only a campaign promise, everyone is used to those being cast aside once an administration really has to govern.

                        But the guy keeps parroting that line in his continued campaign style speeches. I know, in his mind, that he equates fulfilling this promise with posting his propaganda on the White House web site, but it's really more than that. It's the low information voters who accept that as fulfilling the promise, but it's not, and we all realize it.

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                          Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                          Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                          Umm, Most Transparent Administration Ever. Yeah, right. Keep believing that, 'cause it's not the case.

                          FOIA Requests Being Denied More Due To Security Reasons Than Any Time Since Obama Took Office
                          A little secret about Obama's transparency - Los Angeles Times
                          An Obama secret: They're rejecting more Freedom of Information requests than those secretive Bush folks - latimes.com
                          Obama administrations FOIA record worse than Bushs

                          There's more to running a transparent administration than just posting your propaganda up on the White House web site (for all the kool aid drinkers), or doesn't this administration realize that?
                          That's a factoid, something that maybe true, that there are more FOIA rejections than during Bush.
                          But it doesn't "prove" that the White House is more or less transparent.
                          It may just be that more people asked for material that was classified.

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                            Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                            Originally posted by goober View Post
                            That's a factoid, something that maybe true, that there are more FOIA rejections than during Bush.
                            But it doesn't "prove" that the White House is more or less transparent.
                            It may just be that more people asked for material that was classified.
                            Goober, you're right. It might be that. Or it might not be that.

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                              Re: The Most Transparent Administration Ever

                              Originally posted by goober View Post
                              That's a factoid, something that maybe true, that there are more FOIA rejections than during Bush.
                              But it doesn't "prove" that the White House is more or less transparent.
                              It may just be that more people asked for material that was classified.
                              Or that more material is classified to avoid embarrassment.

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