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    Twitter Shuts Down “Truckers For The Constitution”

    Twitter Shuts Down “Truckers For The Constitution” | The Gateway Pundit

    You don't suppose this administration "requested" twitter shut down this account and violate the first amendment rights of these people do you?

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      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
      Twitter Shuts Down “Truckers For The Constitution”

      Twitter Shuts Down “Truckers For The Constitution” | The Gateway Pundit

      You don't suppose this administration "requested" twitter shut down this account and violate the first amendment rights of these people do you?
      You'd have to get Twitter to tell you if they did or didn't.

      The illusion of free speech in the social media realms. Facebook shuts down some of the posts they don't agree with as well. Given the continued use, some would say addiction, of the younger generation to these social media sites and their obvious policy of suppressing speech they don't agree with makes one worry.

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          HUD’s Power Grab - The Obama administration plots a wholesale federal intrusion into local housing policy

          For this vision of America to become a reality, Donovan emphasized to the conventioneers, HUD must “maximize the impact [that federal grants] have on communities.” Municipalities may find that they have to modify zoning and other land-use decisions in order to accommodate construction of affordable housing units in the communities, mostly white, that HUD wants remade. And because HUD is seeking to leverage decisions involving a community’s assets, it appears ready to intrude far more deeply than it already has into state and local governance.
          https://www.weeklystandard.com/artic...51.html?page=2

          Another case of tax payer money being used to extort states to toe the line on another social engineering program.

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            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
            HUD’s Power Grab - The Obama administration plots a wholesale federal intrusion into local housing policy



            https://www.weeklystandard.com/artic...51.html?page=2

            Another case of tax payer money being used to extort states to toe the line on another social engineering program.
            My, my, Obama is certainly ambitiously moving forward his fundamental transformation of the nation.
            Too bad there'll be no nation left after it's implemented.

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              Oh it's political favors pay back time.

              President Obama's newly nominated pick to lead the sprawling Department of Homeland Security is a major Democratic donor who used to work with the president's 2008 campaign, leading one senator to call the choice "deeply concerning."

              The president nominated former Pentagon lawyer Jeh Johnson on Friday afternoon.

              Obama described Johnson as a tested leader with deep experience in the top tiers of government, with a vital focus on national security. "Jeh has a deep understanding of the threats and challenges facing the United States," he said.

              Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials
              You'd think that this administration would catch a clue and kinda slow down their relentless march of greater and greater corruption. But no.

              Now cabinet positions are rewards for being a party loyalist, and contributing large amounts of money to the party.

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                Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups

                Don’t donate to the tea party or to evangelical Christian groups — that was the message soldiers at a pre-deployment briefing at Fort Hood said they received from a counter-intelligence agent who headed up the meeting.

                If you do, you could face punishment — that was the other half of the message, as reported by Fox News.
                Read more: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups - Washington Times

                You can fight to defend the first amendment rights of leftist only.

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                  Do they also request soldiers not contribute to the Communist Party?

                  IOW, if they make blanket statements to not contribute to political parties that support overturning the Republic, or constructing a different Constitution, I would be fine with that. It fits well with the oath to support the US Constitution. A party that wants to make a specific list of what "general welfare" means thru an amendment would be fine. Another that wants to throw out the current constitution to set up an anarcho-capitalist, minimalist constitution would be on the list of "no-no's".

                  Cherry-picking parties is a waste of time. Investigate to what parties they contribute, whether those parties want to bring down the Constitution, then act.
                  Last edited by OldmanDan; 10-25-2013, 08:39 PM.

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                    Didn't see anything on the right wing Christian group's website that was in direct contradiction of the US constitution. They were hell-bent on putting religion back in the classrooms. Seems counter-productive that they would open the door to Satan-worshipping groups, as a result of opening school room space for any organized religious activities. I don't want my tax dollars supporting Satanists.

                    But to the point; the soldiers should bring a lawsuit if they are prohibited from contributing to organizations that are neutral or pro-US constitution. Same goes for religious groups. I understand they have fewer rights than non-military citizens, but this seems to be an over-reach and waste of government (military) time.

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                      Company behind Obamacare website in charge of nearly $2 billion in Sandy relief

                      The Associated Press revealed Tuesday that a mere $700 million of the $60 billion federal aid package – 1.2 percent of the total funds – has been given to victims of super storm Sandy.

                      Nearly a year after the devastating storm, a majority of the 24,000 families that have requested monetary assistance have yet to receive a penny from the federal aid package.
                      CGI Federal in charge of nearly $2 billion in Sandy relief | The Daily Caller

                      Never let a good disaster go to waste.

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                        And in a pinch, when no crisis can be found conveniently, create your own and use it to trample people's rights, to wit (from the Washington Times):

                        Maryland state police and federal agents used a search warrant in an unrelated criminal investigation to seize the private reporting files of an award-winning former investigative journalist for The Washington Times who had exposed problems in the Homeland Security Department's Federal Air Marshal Service.

                        Reporter Audrey Hudson said the investigators, who included an agent for Homeland's Coast Guard service, took her private notes and government documents that she had obtained under the Freedom of Information Act during a predawn raid of her family home on Aug. 6.



                        The documents, some which chronicled her sources and her work at the Times about problems inside the Homeland Security Department, were seized under a warrant to search for unregistered firearms and a “potato gun” suspected of belonging to her husband, Paul Flanagan, a Coast Guard employee. Mr. Flanagan has not been charged with any wrongdoing since the raid.

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                          Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                          Company behind Obamacare website in charge of nearly $2 billion in Sandy relief



                          CGI Federal in charge of nearly $2 billion in Sandy relief | The Daily Caller

                          Never let a good disaster go to waste.
                          Government corruption and performance (or lack there of) at it's best. Be not too harsh, it really is the best that they can manage. And we are being told that a government run single payer system is really the best way to deliver healthcare to the population? Yeah, Right!

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                            The story finally comes out about GM, the government and Pontiac.
                            Former GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz, disclosed today that in order to get federal money, GM had to agree to kill the Pontiac, despite the fact that the G8 was getting rave reviews and selling well, the introduction of a G6 and a new GTO in the pipeline. Pontiac, long known for its powerful, rear wheel drive cars did not match up well with the radical environmentalism within the Obama administration. The G8 was being compared to the BMW.

                            This revelation shows how Obama uses intimidation and fear to force companies to bend to his will. The elimination of Oldsmobile a few years ago made sense in that the cars made in that division and sales did not justify keeping it, but that was not the case with Pontiac. The Pontiac brand looked like it was about to take off and hit the heights it had in the 60s and 70s.

                            Here is the complete text of Lutz’s speech at the Petersen Museum in LA:
                            The Feds basically wanted to get GM down to Cadillac and Chevrolet. They said “you don’t need all these brands. You need one prestige brand, and one mass-market brand.” And we said “well we can’t get rid of Buick because Buick is important in China, and if Buick becomes an orphan in the United States then the Chinese are no longer gonna be interested in it.” And the Feds said “Fair enough, but everything else goes.” We said well we’d also like to keep GMC. They said “well, GMC is basically just like Chevrolet,” and we said “that may be true, there may be a lot of shared components, but GMC has an entirely different image, a different customer base, and people are willing to pay different prices for a GMC, and here’s the profitability,” and the Feds said “whoops, okay, keep GMC.”

                            So now we had Buick, GMC, Cadillac, and Chevrolet, and then, I wanted, badly wanted, to keep Pontiac, because Pontiac was on its way back, and it had been mismanaged for a number of years, you know, with ‘rebuild excitement,’ and the excitement was only in the plastic body cladding, mechanically there was nothing about pontiac in the 90s that would make your heart beat faster. And with the solstice and solstice coupe, and with the Pontiac G8, which was a great car. We were embarked on a strategy of making pontiac different from the rest of GM in that pontiac wouldn’t get any front wheel drive cars, they would all be rear-wheel drive, and the next G6, was going to use the architecture of the cadillac ATS, it was going to be a 3-series sized rear-wheel Pontiac, with basically the cadillac ate de-premiumized, obviously, a lot of the cost taken out, but still fundamentally that architecture.

                            That was going to be the next G6, and I think we could’ve moved pontiac away from every other American volume brand and really started positioning it as attractive US alternative to some of the, and obviously at much lower prices than the european rear-wheel drive cars, but the Feds said “yeah, let’s just, how much money have you made on pontiac in the last 10 years?” and the answer was “nothing.” So, it goes. And, when the guy who is handing you the check for 53 billion dollars says I don’t want pontiac, drop pontiac or you don’t get the money, it doesn’t take you very long to make up your mind.

                            But I think it is a shame, Pontiac was on its way back, and it was killed before it, before the plant could really sprout blossoms, you know, it was well on its way. So, I agree with you, I think Pontiac was a great, wonderful history, mismanaged for a number of years in the 80s and 90s and it was clearly on its way back, and we were starting to see a very good customer base in solstices and especially in the G8, which was favorably compared in a lot of road tests to the BMW 5-series, people would say dynamically the car is as good and it’s more powerful and way cheaper, but that was too bad. but you can’t go through chapter 11 without some really harmful effects
                            Obama Took Out the Pontiac...Extortion 101...Too Much Power - The Free Patriot

                            This hits particularly close to home for me. I've always bought GMs, because they were good cars and trucks, and I've always bought GMCs and Pontiacs because they were slightly upscale from Chevy's styling, interior and equipment wise. I'm glad that I'll still be able to buy a GMC, but what sort of passenger car does GM expect me to buy? I'm not going to buy a Buick, and certainly not a Cadillac. Chevy's interiors look like they are made from recycled plastic garbage cans, so that's out as well.

                            Guess I'll have to start looking at Fords or maybe something else, like a BMW. Guess GM doesn't want as a passenger car customer anymore.

                            This also goes to show you how fucking clueless this administration is about business and product marketing.

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                              More verification that Obama is not in charge, he is just there as a figurehead:

                              (CNN) -- The White House learned this summer that the National Security Agency had tapped the phones of world leaders and ordered a halt to some of the eavesdropping, The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday.

                              Quoting unidentified U.S. officials, the newspaper's website said the wiretapping of about 35 foreign leaders was disclosed to the White House as part of a review of surveillance programs ordered by President Barack Obama after NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked classified details of the NSA's phone monitoring systems.

                              The White House ordered a halt to the monitoring of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and unspecified other leaders, the newspaper reported. The Journal report did not specify who gave the shutdown order or the date it was issued.
                              Report: White House stopped phone tapping of German Chancellor Merkel - CNN.com

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                                Another Obama appointee pleads the fifth.

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