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Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

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  • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

    Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
    The only American president to put people in concentration camps. The absolute worst president EVER, by far. A stone piece of shit, who should have been tried, convicted, and hung on the White House lawn for treason.
    Ah, if a nuke goes off in a US city, by islamists, watch and see how "enlightened" we are. You sir, do not know what we are capable of once filled with fear. And IF a nuke or two were go off, the intelligent thing to do would be to put all risks in a place where they cannot perhaps do it again.

    I swear, the minds of some people are out of touch with reality. Of course you have never really been through a situation where you didn't know if the US would survive, and given that, you can get on a high horse and say things. Your life has been far too comforatable, as most americans have been, to understand much of anything in these regards.

    If this nation is ever at great risk, of being destroyed, or hundreds of thousands, if not millions at risk, all of these nice fuzzy beliefs quickly get thrown away. And you do what you think is the safest manner to proceed, even if it involved putting people in camps who might be a threat to the existence of this nation. For NOT to address that risk is human stupidity.

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    • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

      Originally posted by tsquare View Post
      come on Matt... let it out... tell us how you really feel. Don't hold back...
      The guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that in times of great, monunmental risk to a nation, things get crazy real fast. When a nation is fighting for its very life, everything is on the table to survive. Yet, he doesn't understand it. Which makes him clueless, stupid even, with his damned ideological beliefs that are only worth wiping one's ass with.

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      • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
        The guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that in times of great, monunmental risk to a nation, things get crazy real fast. When a nation is fighting for its very life, everything is on the table to survive. Yet, he doesn't understand it. Which makes him clueless, stupid even, with his damned ideological beliefs that are only worth wiping one's ass with.
        Coming from you BD, that means almost nothing.

        It's you with your FDR blinders on than can't see that you have spent your whole life voting for and supporting the very people and policies you allegedly vilify today.

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        • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
          The guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that in times of great, monunmental risk to a nation, things get crazy real fast. When a nation is fighting for its very life, everything is on the table to survive. Yet, he doesn't understand it. Which makes him clueless, stupid even, with his damned ideological beliefs that are only worth wiping one's ass with.
          The difference between today and then, is that we have violent Islamists in this country today who have attacked our country. That was not the case with the Japanese at that time. There were no attacks on our country by Japanese-Americans. It was simply racism.

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          • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
            The difference between today and then, is that we have violent Islamists in this country today who have attacked our country. That was not the case with the Japanese at that time. There were no attacks on our country by Japanese-Americans. It was simply racism.
            I have said this before, but I don't mind stating facts again. The Japanese americans were in danger from being attacked, beat up, killed by non Japanese americans. That is a damned fact. Next, we did not know if any of the japs felt an allegiance to the nation they came from. And remember, we didn't know if we were gonna win the war. For gods sake man!!!

            You can bet your bippy, that if a nuke goes off in America, set by radicals, and if we don't confine the muslim population so we can keep an eye on them, that sir would be stupidity. As bad as putting the japenese amercans in camps was, it was hardly like the Nazis throwing the jews and political prisoners in camps. We didn't starve our citizens to death, and we didn't treat them as the Nazis treated the people they were suspicious of.

            When you don't know how a war will turn out, you tend to be safe and careful with any potential threat, whether it be the japs in ww2 or the muslims these days. As long as you are humane, and decent, it is just the cost of winning war that is up for grabs.

            Oldman, have you ever seen the cartoons of the ww2 era? They were indeed racist, towards the Nazis and japs. They portrayed japs and monkeys. And this is normal when a nation if fighting on two fronts for its very existence. Don't play stupid with me oldman, you are as old as I am, and know better. But you are just defending another con, I know, I know. But I expect honesty sir, especially from you. And you sure as heck ain't being honest, for you sound like a damned modern liberal.

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            • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

              Originally posted by tsquare View Post
              Coming from you BD, that means almost nothing.

              It's you with your FDR blinders on than can't see that you have spent your whole life voting for and supporting the very people and policies you allegedly vilify today.
              You guys don't know much, about war. That is obvious. I think you guys lie to yourselves in the petty partisan fights. And are not astute enough to know what the hell you are doing.

              I am not a dem, nor a repub. How many times must I say that? Not only are you blind as a bat sir, but deaf as well. Or you cannot read. I have made this clear countless times.

              If the legacy of FDR had not been trashed by the dems, and the repubs, we wouldn't be in such a mess today.

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              • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                You guys don't know much, about war. That is obvious. I think you guys lie to yourselves in the petty partisan fights. And are not astute enough to know what the hell you are doing.

                I am not a dem, nor a repub. How many times must I say that? Not only are you blind as a bat sir, but deaf as well. Or you cannot read. I have made this clear countless times.

                If the legacy of FDR had not been trashed by the dems, and the repubs, we wouldn't be in such a mess today.
                You can scream it until the fucking cows come home, then leave again... based on EVERYTHING ELSE you post, nobody here believes you.

                The legacy of FDR, is a huge federal government that exists to support itself not serve the people, a welfare state, both a ruling class, and a dependent class. That you REFUSE to see that is the real story here...

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                • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                  I have said this before, but I don't mind stating facts again. The Japanese americans were in danger from being attacked, beat up, killed by non Japanese americans. That is a damned fact. Next, we did not know if any of the japs felt an allegiance to the nation they came from. And remember, we didn't know if we were gonna win the war. For gods sake man!!!

                  You can bet your bippy, that if a nuke goes off in America, set by radicals, and if we don't confine the muslim population so we can keep an eye on them, that sir would be stupidity. As bad as putting the japenese amercans in camps was, it was hardly like the Nazis throwing the jews and political prisoners in camps. We didn't starve our citizens to death, and we didn't treat them as the Nazis treated the people they were suspicious of.

                  When you don't know how a war will turn out, you tend to be safe and careful with any potential threat, whether it be the japs in ww2 or the muslims these days. As long as you are humane, and decent, it is just the cost of winning war that is up for grabs.

                  Oldman, have you ever seen the cartoons of the ww2 era? They were indeed racist, towards the Nazis and japs. They portrayed japs and monkeys. And this is normal when a nation if fighting on two fronts for its very existence. Don't play stupid with me oldman, you are as old as I am, and know better. But you are just defending another con, I know, I know. But I expect honesty sir, especially from you. And you sure as heck ain't being honest, for you sound like a damned modern liberal.
                  After 9/11, Muslims here were in danger of being attacked. Do you think they would rather be locked up for their own protection? I don't think many of the Japanese here felt like being interred was the best choice for them.

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                  • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                    You can scream it until the fucking cows come home, then leave again... based on EVERYTHING ELSE you post, nobody here believes you.

                    The legacy of FDR, is a huge federal government that exists to support itself not serve the people, a welfare state, both a ruling class, and a dependent class. That you REFUSE to see that is the real story here...
                    The legacy, long gone, of FDR allowed some of the power to be exercised by the majority, who are not elites. Since elites historically, have run things, and conservatism finds nothing wrong with that, or so it seems, just WHO do cons really represent? Any average American who is a conservative is highly unintelligent, as any average American who is a modern liberal is just as unintelligent. I think that is a fact. For you have bought into these various ideas, that if allowed to carry the day would not work, whether it was modern liberalism or modern conservatism

                    And why should I care if you are not intelligent enough to be objective? I will continue, for as long as the forum is here, to speak my mind, and not be affiliated with the modern libs and certainly not the modern cons. For both are tribal idiots, IMO.

                    Any man who says he KNOWS is no different from the village idiot, including myself. I don't know the right way forward, but I do know what doesn't work. So when you eliminate what will not work, you come upon what might work. Conservative thinking is a luxury, and it is an elitist mindset, held by men who are not elitist, but who have weak minds and are easily persuaded, perhaps because they have flawed characters. The same is true of the loony left.

                    Of course it takes intelligence to recognize the obvious, and so we just don't have much intelligence involved in this stupid ass tribalism. Tribalism arises when stupidity rules the roost.

                    Someone has to be objective, as one can be, and that sure as hell won't come from the right nor the left. The fact of the matter is we live in an oligarchy. SO, these political fights are an exercise in futility, and one helluva distraction. Which is why my country is in such a mess.

                    Every gov't in the western hemisphere is large, with most being too large. The reason is because both the cons and the libs demand to control the population. End of story. Your team has no moral highground here, but keep deluding yourself into thinking otherwise. Your men in DC love big gov't, just as much as the liberals. That is the fact. But believe whatever you want. The real world is divorced from your petty views of it. You cannot be objective, and I doubt that you really want to be. So carry on, the blind leading the blind. It sure as hell hasn't made things better, or have you even had the time in your own tribalism to even notice?

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                    • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                      The guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that in times of great, monunmental risk to a nation, things get crazy real fast. When a nation is fighting for its very life, everything is on the table to survive. Yet, he doesn't understand it. Which makes him clueless, stupid even, with his damned ideological beliefs that are only worth wiping one's ass with.
                      I'll bet the Germans said the same things about Hitler. You would have made a great concentration camp guard, willing to accept any order.

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                      • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                        Oldman, have you ever seen the cartoons of the ww2 era? They were indeed racist, towards the Nazis and japs. They portrayed japs and monkeys. And this is normal when a nation if fighting on two fronts for its very existence. Don't play stupid with me oldman, you are as old as I am, and know better. But you are just defending another con, I know, I know. But I expect honesty sir, especially from you. And you sure as heck ain't being honest, for you sound like a damned modern liberal.

                        How about some honesty then. How does a nation that doesn't even have a navy that can cross the English Channel, pose an imminent threat to the existence of the US? And the Japanese had even fewer forces and were woefully equipped. You’re just accepting the propaganda you’re been feed and defending an idol of yours. You’ve never honestly asked yourself if the Axis posed an immediate danger to the US.

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                        • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                          The legacy, long gone, of FDR allowed some of the power to be exercised by the majority, who are not elites. Since elites historically, have run things, and conservatism finds nothing wrong with that, or so it seems, just WHO do cons really represent? Any average American who is a conservative is highly unintelligent, as any average American who is a modern liberal is just as unintelligent. I think that is a fact. For you have bought into these various ideas, that if allowed to carry the day would not work, whether it was modern liberalism or modern conservatism

                          And why should I care if you are not intelligent enough to be objective? I will continue, for as long as the forum is here, to speak my mind, and not be affiliated with the modern libs and certainly not the modern cons. For both are tribal idiots, IMO.

                          Any man who says he KNOWS is no different from the village idiot, including myself. I don't know the right way forward, but I do know what doesn't work. So when you eliminate what will not work, you come upon what might work. Conservative thinking is a luxury, and it is an elitist mindset, held by men who are not elitist, but who have weak minds and are easily persuaded, perhaps because they have flawed characters. The same is true of the loony left.

                          Of course it takes intelligence to recognize the obvious, and so we just don't have much intelligence involved in this stupid ass tribalism. Tribalism arises when stupidity rules the roost.

                          Someone has to be objective, as one can be, and that sure as hell won't come from the right nor the left. The fact of the matter is we live in an oligarchy. SO, these political fights are an exercise in futility, and one helluva distraction. Which is why my country is in such a mess.

                          Every gov't in the western hemisphere is large, with most being too large. The reason is because both the cons and the libs demand to control the population. End of story. Your team has no moral highground here, but keep deluding yourself into thinking otherwise. Your men in DC love big gov't, just as much as the liberals. That is the fact. But believe whatever you want. The real world is divorced from your petty views of it. You cannot be objective, and I doubt that you really want to be. So carry on, the blind leading the blind. It sure as hell hasn't made things better, or have you even had the time in your own tribalism to even notice?
                          I KNOW that rouNding people up and putting them in conc nitration camps based on the color of their skin is WRONG.

                          If you don't KNOW that, then you have no morals. If you don't KNOW that, then you are just the kind of man who ended up packing people in to the ovens, because someone convinced them that it was "necessary" due to the "threat".

                          Normal people KNOW it was wrong and why.

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                          • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                            Originally posted by CYDdharta View Post
                            How about some honesty then. How does a nation that doesn't even have a navy that can cross the English Channel, pose an imminent threat to the existence of the US? And the Japanese had even fewer forces and were woefully equipped. You’re just accepting the propaganda you’re been feed and defending an idol of yours. You’ve never honestly asked yourself if the Axis posed an immediate danger to the US.
                            I think you are rather underestimating just how powerful the German navy was during WW2.
                            Germany could have won the war and taken the UK and most of Western Europe and if they did the US would have had little option but to try and come to some sort of peaceful accommodation with them or face a long and blody war where the now much more powerful Germany could indeed threaten the US mainland.

                            WW2 was not a forgone conclusion as some in the US seem to believe and yes the US could have lost if Hitler had been less batshit mental. There were many opportunities for them to win but they luckily didn't take them.
                            That's why stories of WW2 are so interesting as who would care about a war with an obvious winner from the start.

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                            • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                              I think you are rather underestimating just how powerful the German navy was during WW2.
                              Germany could have won the war and taken the UK and most of Western Europe and if they did the US would have had little option but to try and come to some sort of peaceful accommodation with them or face a long and blody war where the now much more powerful Germany could indeed threaten the US mainland.

                              WW2 was not a forgone conclusion as some in the US seem to believe and yes the US could have lost if Hitler had been less batshit mental. There were many opportunities for them to win but they luckily didn't take them.
                              That's why stories of WW2 are so interesting as who would care about a war with an obvious winner from the start.

                              I underestimate nothing. The US was in no danger whatsoever of being invaded by Germany. Sure, our trading partners were in mortal danger, but for the US, WWII was a preemptive war of choice. We can play “what if” games ad nauseam about how things could have turned out differently, but the simple fact of the matter is that the Third Reich NEVER posed a serious threat to the 48 states that at the time comprised the United States of America.

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                              • Wonder what libs would think if the Republicans used this tactic to shut down abortion clinics or anyone who honors EBT cards.

                                Obama DOJ Caught Targeting Legal Gun Dealers – Threaten Banks to Close Their Accounts (Video)

                                Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, January 14, 2015, 6:22 PM

                                http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...ccounts-video/



                                Audio Tapes Reveal How Federal Regulators Shut Down Gun Store Owner’s Bank Accounts


                                “I received a call from Heritage Credit Union in Hawkins, where I set up my business account for Hawkins Guns. They told me I had to close the account because they do not service companies that deal in guns,” wrote Shuetz on Facebook at the time.
                                http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/14/au...bank-accounts/




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