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Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

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  • #91
    Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

    Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
    I find this one interesting. Figured this was the best recent thread for this.

    Huffington Post Defends Fox News, Says Holder Must "Go"

    Apparently Huff is supporting and agreeing with Fox News. Am I dead? Has hell frozen over?

    Well, what has happened is indefensible even by left wing rags.

    IMO, Holder should have already been GONE. I felt that in his first year when he did not go after banksters, but given that I believe he was chosen because he had done work for them, and wouldn't go after them....

    What has gone on under the Obama terms is frankly, scary, for us average folks out here in America. When I picked up The Baptist Record this morning that I received last week in the mail, there as a story about his IRS targeting Billy Graham's tax exempt organization, BGEA, the Samaritan's Purse and the Biblical Recorder, which isn't a tea party group, but concerns itself with religion, I was frankly shocked. Franklin Graham, his son shot off a letter to the WH saying, "I am bringing this to your attention because I believe that someone in the Administration was targeting and attempting to intimidate us" He described the IRS audits as morally wrong and unethical, indeed some would call it un-American.

    It seems to me that someone higher up in this admin. has in one way or the other given an ok to go after religious organizations. And coincidently Graham was notified of the IRS audits a few days after BGEA ran ads supporting N.C's marriage amendment!

    Folks, the actions that this admin is in hot water over, attacking the constitution, points to something nefarious, and I get an intimation of a tyrannical group within this admin, although I will not say that Obama has given out orders to do this crap.

    But there is something rotten and stinking with this admin. Too much smoke for there not to be a real fire. 2016 cannot come quick enough. We need a general house cleaning and I wish I could trust the repubs to do it. But I don't. I think they are just as dirty, but have not been given the opportunity. The entire crowd up there is corrupt, as America burns the bill of rights.

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    • #92
      Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

      Under Obama, the IRS chief was a White House regular
      10:01 am, may 28, 2013 by jeffrey h. Anderson
      Under Obama, the IRS Chief Was a White House Regular | The Weekly Standard

      The Washington Examiner reports that the IRS chief visited the white house more than once a week under president Obama, after having visited less than once a year under president Bush. The IRS chief came to the white house a reported 118 times from 2010 to 2011 under Obama, compared to only once from 2003 to 2007 under Bush a 236-fold increase per day. Under Bush, a white house appearance from the taxman came as frequently as the opening of the olympic games; under Obama it came more frequently than Sports Illustrated.

      Aside from perhaps being there to discuss targeting efforts, the only plausible reason for the IRS chief to have visited the Obama white house so regularly was to discuss the IRSs significant expansion in power and scope under Obamacare. In the wake of the revelations that the IRS has used its power during the Obama administration to target Obamas political opponents, surely both parties can now agree that the IRS should be removed from any role in Obamacare implementation. Is this really the time to give the IRS a promotion?
      With all those visits by the head of the IRS, we are supposed to believe that Obama didn't know anything at all about the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS?

      Hardly seems plausible.

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      • #93
        Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

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        Yup. Seems hardly plausible. Regardless of the source, it's stating facts.

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        • #94
          Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

          Apparently DHS didn’t get the memo… America doesn’t appreciate intimidation of political groups that oppose certain political agendas. You would think this became clear when news of the IRS intimidation scandal broke.

          Indeed, the Department of Homeland Security showed up at a Tea Party Rally yesterday. The DHS sent armed “Federal Protective Service” Agents to “protect” the IRS from peaceful protestors who gathered to state their dislike of the IRS scandal.

          Here’s video of the rally that shows the DHS vehicles.

          ARMED DHS AGENTS STAND GUARD AT ST. LOUIS TEA PARTY RALLY - LibertyNEWS.com
          So what is this now? The DHS are devolving into a federal police force which is keeping tabs on political movements that criticize the federal government?

          Anyone else see the danger here?

          Is this really what DHS should be spending their budget on? (So I guess it could also go in Foolish government spending, eh?)

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          • #95
            Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
            So what is this now? The DHS are devolving into a federal police force which is keeping tabs on political movements that criticize the federal government?

            Anyone else see the danger here?

            Is this really what DHS should be spending their budget on? (So I guess it could also go in Foolish government spending, eh?)
            LibertyNEWS has this a bit overblown, at least the DHS angle.

            These were Federal Protective Service officers. The FPS has been around for a long, long time, and it protects government property. When I worked at EPA, we had FPS officers there protecting the property when Greenpeace demonstrated.

            FPS was moved from GSA to DHS when the DHS was formed.

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            • #96
              Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

              Armed Security guards in plain clothes? Co-mingling with demonstrators? That sounds really odd to me.

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              • #97
                Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                If what is happening is true, namely with the IRS (but the phone tapping is dodgy too), then this is worse than Nixon. Nixon's Watergate scandal was amateurish which is why it failed. This is a lot more organised and if true is a larger conspiracy. I am a moderate lefty.

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                • #98
                  Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                  Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                  Armed Security guards in plain clothes? Co-mingling with demonstrators? That sounds really odd to me.
                  Not sure about that - I was commenting on the DHS / FPS angle.

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                  • #99
                    Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                    This is the same Lois Lerner at the heart of the IRS scandal.

                    Lois Lerner, the controversial director of the tax-exempt organizations division at the Internal Revenue Service, has a long sordid history of targeting conservatives.

                    Under the direction of Lois Lerner, the Federal Election Commission sued the Christian Coalition in the 1990s. She harassed the Christian Coalition for three election cycles. Eventually, she lost her case. At one point Lerner even asked a conservative if Pat Robertson prayed over him.

                    In 1996 Lois Lerner, the IRS official at the center of the harassment of Tea Party groups seeking tax exempt status, was head of the enforcement division of the Federal Elections Commission(FEC). That year Al Salvi was the Republican nominee for the US Senate from Illinois, his Democrat opponent was then congressman Dick Durbin.

                    During the final weeks of the campaign Salvi loaned himself over a million dollars to buy ads in the Chicago media market. This in turn prompted the Democrat party’s campaign arms to file complaints with the FEC and in kind the FEC, specifically Lois Lerner, filed charges against Al Salvi.

                    That is when Mr. Salvi contends Lois Lerner made him the following offer, “Promise me you will never run for office again, and we’ll drop this case.”

                    Al Salvi refused that offer and would fight the FEC complaint against him for several more years before a Judge tossed out the complaint. Al Salvi would also run unsuccessfully for Secretary of State in Illinois in 1998.
                    Lois Lerner To Republican Candidate In 1996: “Promise me you will never run for office again, and we’ll drop this (FEC) case” | usofarn.com

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                    • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                      This is the same Lois Lerner at the heart of the IRS scandal.

                      Lois Lerner, the controversial director of the tax-exempt organizations division at the Internal Revenue Service, has a long sordid history of targeting conservatives.

                      Under the direction of Lois Lerner, the Federal Election Commission sued the Christian Coalition in the 1990s. She harassed the Christian Coalition for three election cycles. Eventually, she lost her case. At one point Lerner even asked a conservative if Pat Robertson prayed over him.



                      Lois Lerner To Republican Candidate In 1996: Promise me you will never run for office again, and well drop this (FEC) case | usofarn.com
                      And she has the gall to tell congress that she's done nothing wrong? In her mind, she's done nothing wrong?

                      Seems like more and more examples of typical liberal tolerance for opinions and positions that differ from theirs, except that in these cases, they are using (abusing) the power of government to enforce their intolerance. That's blatantly illegal, immoral, and abusing government power for their political agenda.

                      If these threads keep getting pulled, and as the sweater continues to unravel, the liberals, their nastiness and their agenda will be laid bare for all to clearly see.

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                      • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                        IRS Crosses Green Line
                        Pro-Israel groups felt wrath of Obama IRS, WFB investigation reveals


                        A Washington Free Beacon investigation has identified at least five pro-Israel organizations that have been audited by the IRS in the wake of a coordinated campaign by White House-allied activist groups in 2009 and 2010.
                        IRS Crosses Green Line | Washington Free Beacon

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                        • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                          An interesting set of facts here.

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                          Publicly released records show that embattled former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times during the Obama administration, more recorded visits than even the most trusted members of the presidents Cabinet.

                          Shulman had more White House visits than any Cabinet member | The Daily Caller
                          I doubt that all these visitors 'just drop by' without an appointment. So I figure that it's safe to assume that they are invited.

                          We looking at the graph we can see clearly see an insight into this administration's policy priorities.
                          1. IRS
                          2. Commerce
                          3. National Labor Relation's Board candidate

                          All those meetings with the previous head of the IRS, and the topic of 'special treatment' for religious and conservative organizations never came up? That's a laughable assumption. I think it's well within reasonable suspicion that Obama directed the IRS to disenfranchise religious and conservative organizations. For shame.

                          That being said:
                          The visitor logs do not give a complete picture of White House access. Some high-level officials get cleared for access and do not have to sign in during visits. A Washington Post database of visitor log records cautions, The log may include some scheduled visits that did not take place and exclude visits by members of Congress, top officials and others who are not required to sign in at security gates.

                          Shulman had more White House visits than any Cabinet member | The Daily Caller
                          But still, an interesting perspective on the priorities of this administration.
                          Attached Files

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                          • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                            Could the Obama Administration’s Next Scandal Be Brewing at the EPA?

                            Could the Obama Administration’s Next Scandal Be Brewing at the EPA? | Video | TheBlaze.com

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                            • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                              Although the tea party may get more members from these scandals. It will be interesting if Libertarians will get an increase in members as well. Although some tea party members are already libertarian leaning (41%-according to a 2011 Reason-Rupe poll).

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                              • Re: Abuses Of Government By The Obama Administration

                                Originally posted by heathrf1974 View Post
                                Although the tea party may get more members from these scandals. It will be interesting if Libertarians will get an increase in members as well. Although some tea party members are already libertarian leaning (41%-according to a 2011 Reason-Rupe poll).
                                That is the decision they should be making. The Tea Party is spent already, lost in the politics of what they still want from government spending. We need a good strong 3rd party, we can only hope it is the Libertarians (or a group like them.)

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