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CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

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    CNN/ORC Poll: Obama Seen as Ineffective and Dishonest

    A new national poll shows that only four out of every 10 Americans believe President Barack Obama is managing the government "effectively" and 53 percent do not believe he is "honest and trustworthy."

    The survey of 843 adults taken Nov. 18-20 by CNN/ORC International represents a dramatic drop of 12 percentage points from June, when 52 percent of respondents in another CNN/ORC poll said the president was effective in running the government

    The CNN/ORC International survey also found that 53 percent of respondents do not believe Obama is "honest and trustworthy," a figure that for the first time represents "a clear majority" raising that concern.
    Some of us have been saying this since 2008.

    I suppose it's better late than never that folks start coming around but we sure could have avoided a lot of damage if people [media at large, John McCain, etc.] had listened to what we were saying instead of calling us lunatics.

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    Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

    Many on the left didn't call you lunatics, though.

    Many applauded McCain for his service and for being a maverick choice, its when you nominated Romney that you opened yourself up for ridicule Luther.

    But to be frank about it, it is when he is more honest about things that there is more of an issue than when he lies.

    For example, he says he likes abortion and his policies signify that ; he has policies that support abortion. He said he wanted every woman to be a Sandra Fluke and have contraception and he has tried to implement policies as such. He is open about his lust for sticking a hand / surgical tool etc up a woman's womb and he has shown his intent to follow through.

    What he lies about, every politician lies about.

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      Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

      Originally posted by Chloe View Post
      Many on the left didn't call you lunatics, though.

      Many applauded McCain for his service and for being a maverick choice, its when you nominated Romney that you opened yourself up for ridicule Luther.

      But to be frank about it, it is when he is more honest about things that there is more of an issue than when he lies.

      For example, he says he likes abortion and his policies signify that ; he has policies that support abortion. He said he wanted every woman to be a Sandra Fluke and have contraception and he has tried to implement policies as such. He is open about his lust for sticking a hand / surgical tool etc up a woman's womb and he has shown his intent to follow through.

      What he lies about, every politician lies about.
      Yeah, but he's the first president to blatantly lie, repeatedly, for his own political gains, to win an election, to the entire nation, and to their detriment.

      That's a whole order of magnitude, perhaps even 2 or 3 orders of magnitude more, than any politician that came before him.

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        Oh i don't know, i think it is a stretch to say he did it to win an election...a dog could have beaten Romney so it wasn't a "need" anyway.

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          Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

          Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
          Yeah, but he's the first president to blatantly lie, repeatedly, for his own political gains, to win an election, to the entire nation, and to their detriment.

          That's a whole order of magnitude, perhaps even 2 or 3 orders of magnitude more, than any politician that came before him.
          That's so precious. You think he's the first president to lie for his own gain, repeatedly! You forgot about FDR!

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            Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

            Every President does it.

            It is just a case of this President being one of the few who is more of a danger to all society when he tells the truth.

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              Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

              From the same source:

              According to the poll, 53 percent of the country does not think that Obama is "a strong and decisive leader," while 56 percent declared that he does not "inspire confidence." These are the worst numbers for the president in CNN polls since he took office.
              I need to meet the 47% who thinks the man is a strong and decisive leader, the 44% who thinks he inspires confidence. Not even as a President of the United States, simply as a man, a basic functioning leader.

              I have been around strong leadership. I have been around men and women who bring strength with just their presence. I strive to be a good leader and see the reactions of people around me when I'm getting it right.

              Since campaigning for his first term President Obama has just never done it for me. I've never seen him to anything except bend and fold at every turn.

              390 adults are walking around right now thinking the President is strong, decisive, and inspires confidence. That speaks volumes of those adults and the company they keep.

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                Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                Many on the left didn't call you lunatics, though.

                Many applauded McCain for his service and for being a maverick choice, its when you nominated Romney that you opened yourself up for ridicule Luther.

                But to be frank about it, it is when he is more honest about things that there is more of an issue than when he lies.

                For example, he says he likes abortion and his policies signify that ; he has policies that support abortion. He said he wanted every woman to be a Sandra Fluke and have contraception and he has tried to implement policies as such. He is open about his lust for sticking a hand / surgical tool etc up a woman's womb and he has shown his intent to follow through.

                What he lies about, every politician lies about.
                Romney was a symptom of the efforts to mask the truth about Obama, not the cause.

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                  Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                  Eh? He was an asshole long before Obama ever came about, as indicated by his 2008 run and the GOP does need to take some blame for this. You have been nominating jackboots for an eternity now, and every next person up is the latest phase of tomorrow's rising star (Herman Cain / Alan West / Sarah Palin / Dr Ben and on and on and on). Sometimes you just need to take a step back for a minute and see who is able to string a sentence together, and who can win a race.

                  As for masking the truth about Obama, you half sound like a conspiracy theorist! But what bugs me the most is you knew what a jerk Romney was for 4 years before, maybe 5. And that was before all the rest came up like his time in MA as Governor. And bless, you went ahead and nominated him anyway!

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                    Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                    Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                    Every President does it.

                    It is just a case of this President being one of the few who is more of a danger to all society when he tells the truth.
                    I'd say his leading us down this primrose path with his poisonous tongue is what is a danger to society. If he'd told the truth we wouldn't be in this mess because he wouldn't have gotten elected. Instead we'd be in a different mess with hilary because romney never had a prayer just like McCain/Palin never had a snowballs chance in hell.

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                    Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                    Eh? He was an asshole long before Obama ever came about, as indicated by his 2008 run and the GOP does need to take some blame for this. You have been nominating jackboots for an eternity now, and every next person up is the latest phase of tomorrow's rising star (Herman Cain / Alan West / Sarah Palin / Dr Ben and on and on and on). Sometimes you just need to take a step back for a minute and see who is able to string a sentence together, and who can win a race.

                    As for masking the truth about Obama, you half sound like a conspiracy theorist! But what bugs me the most is you knew what a jerk Romney was for 4 years before, maybe 5. And that was before all the rest came up like his time in MA as Governor. And bless, you went ahead and nominated him anyway!
                    Yeah it hasn't been a great line up. That's the problem with the social cons. Someone says jesus or wears a flag pin and they turn their brains off, decision already made.

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                      But thankfully the "solution" in dealing with those that refuse to see the social element is to constantly lump them with the Obama types until they see the light.

                      You will vote for a social conservative before any God fearing Christian sacrifices his or her principles to go Mormon voting.

                      Btw i think its hilarious you think McCain and Romney are social conservatives...

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                        Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                        Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                        Eh? He was an asshole long before Obama ever came about, as indicated by his 2008 run and the GOP does need to take some blame for this. You have been nominating jackboots for an eternity now, and every next person up is the latest phase of tomorrow's rising star (Herman Cain / Alan West / Sarah Palin / Dr Ben and on and on and on). Sometimes you just need to take a step back for a minute and see who is able to string a sentence together, and who can win a race.

                        As for masking the truth about Obama, you half sound like a conspiracy theorist! But what bugs me the most is you knew what a jerk Romney was for 4 years before, maybe 5. And that was before all the rest came up like his time in MA as Governor. And bless, you went ahead and nominated him anyway!
                        You can leave me out of that "nominating Romney" bilge. I voted for Newt in the primary.

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                          Bilge is probably the right word.

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                            Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                            But thankfully the "solution" in dealing with those that refuse to see the social element is to constantly lump them with the Obama types until they see the light.

                            You will vote for a social conservative before any God fearing Christian sacrifices his or her principles to go Mormon voting.

                            Btw i think its hilarious you think McCain and Romney are social conservatives...
                            Nope. They all get separate camps. Like badgers. Put them together and they'll maul each other to dea........... Wait a tick. Put them all in the same box and pop the popcorn

                            I'd love to vote social con, except I've got 3 root canals with no novacaine while getting scoped through both ends without anesthetics and passing a kidney stone all on that day.... I'd write in "free beer" before I voted social con. I would literally defacate in the slot rather than vote social con. Or social lib by the way. Generally because they are authortarian pricks who wipe their asses with the constitution, but specifically because they difer on just HOW they wish to be authortarian pricks who wipe their asses with the constitution. I mean there are just so many ways to oppress people, you can't expect them to choose the same ways. That's profilin, and profilin's wrong.

                            Social cons are found on a) continuation of status quo on things like SS, welfare, medicaid/care b) drug war c) abortion d) civil liberties of other sorts too long to mention.
                            Same as social libs are, except they want more than status quo for A and B (more money spent more taxes more subsidies) an opposite position on C and sometimes they want an opposite position on D (d for don't hold your breath).
                            McCain and Romney hit ALL the highlights and made all the relevant noises. Whether they intended to follow through or not is not able to be seen.

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                              Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                              Eh? Romney half called SS a fraud, and the biggest opponents of the war on drugs are the likes of Paul who are pro life and oppose abortion. The square pegs and round holes are proving problematic in your generalizations right now.

                              But it is amusing you thought they hit the right notes ; most social conservatives described them the same way you describe McCain and Romney in your post. (Plus the teeth issues of course).

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