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CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

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  • #16
    Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

    Originally posted by ArmyFerret View Post
    I need to meet the 47% who thinks the man is a strong and decisive leader, the 44% who thinks he inspires confidence.
    Have you met Danny?

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    • #17
      Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

      Originally posted by Chloe View Post
      Eh? Romney half called SS a fraud, and the biggest opponents of the war on drugs are the likes of Paul who are pro life and oppose abortion. The square pegs and round holes are proving problematic in your generalizations right now.

      But it is amusing you thought they hit the right notes ; most social conservatives described them the same way you describe McCain and Romney in your post. (Plus the teeth issues of course).
      Didn't hear him calling to get rid of it either. (romney) Especially on grounds of principle. He was just stating facts, if you ran SS as private entity you'd be in the cell next to bernie madoff. It is a ponzi scheme.
      Paul is a bit problematic but then that's ONE issue over the plethora he opposed. There will always be outliers, and like I said, general rule of thumb. Some thumbs are bigger/smaller than others.

      WHich social cons were you talking about? Cause McCain/Palin had plenty of support from social cons. Romney less so (as you said the mormon factor hurt him on some levels but he also had a tract record that wasn't good on alot of the issues of the day. ) but still had their support for the most part.
      The 12 race was what you might call a clusterfuck in terms of candidates. Johnson and Paul should've run together from the start on their own ticket, no parties. Every pub candidate should've stayed home (Perry was too doped to talk, newt has skellys, romney was unelectable see above, Cain had skellys), and so should the dems (that's quite enough hope and change for me thanks. tastes like piss poorly poured out of an old boot with the instructions on the heel).
      The 08 race wasn't much better. McCain had a shot, a tiny little window, and he slammed it shut when he didn't vet palin well enough (arguably not his fault but if he's gonna be exec he needs to know the rule : its ALWAYS your fault).

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      • #18
        Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

        Originally posted by Chloe View Post
        Many on the left didn't call you lunatics, though.

        Many applauded McCain for his service and for being a maverick choice, its when you nominated Romney that you opened yourself up for ridicule Luther.

        But to be frank about it, it is when he is more honest about things that there is more of an issue than when he lies.

        For example, he says he likes abortion and his policies signify that ; he has policies that support abortion. He said he wanted every woman to be a Sandra Fluke and have contraception and he has tried to implement policies as such. He is open about his lust for sticking a hand / surgical tool etc up a woman's womb and he has shown his intent to follow through.

        What he lies about, every politician lies about.
        IMO, both McCain and Romney were settled for. Neither were true conservatives and in both primaries, the true conservatives were beaten up in a manner quite reminiscent of democrat politics a lב Harry Reid. I find the ease with whie lies and his position on abortion equally reprehensible.

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          Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

          Just curious, who was the "true conservative" in those races and why?

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          • #20
            Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

            Originally posted by reality View Post
            I'd say his leading us down this primrose path with his poisonous tongue is what is a danger to society. If he'd told the truth we wouldn't be in this mess because he wouldn't have gotten elected. Instead we'd be in a different mess with hilary because romney never had a prayer just like McCain/Palin never had a snowballs chance in hell.


            Yeah it hasn't been a great line up. That's the problem with the social cons. Someone says jesus or wears a flag pin and they turn their brains off, decision already made.
            Romney was not a Conservative and he lost the election because many many Conservatives stayed home.

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            • #21
              Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
              Romney was not a Conservative and he lost the election because many many Conservatives stayed home.
              There is no doubt that Obysmal is the biggest liar we have ever had as President when it comes to domestic policy, bar none. As far as being ineffective, I disagree; he has done exactly what he has set out to do, and nobody has been able to stop him yet.

              But OMD, as far as your statement I have brought down, I would like to comment as quickly as I can, making the point that I am trying to get across.

              .......Every person I have talked to.....EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM......that is a regular republican, conservative, or libertarian has stated unequivocally that Obama is by faaar the worst President they have ever seen in their lifetime. These people stated this before Obysmal ever got elected the second time. People on this board have stated this constantly, and they are just a microcosm of what virtually ever person, center/right of center think of this man.

              So then, when you see a man like this get elected to a second term with faaaaar less votes than he garnered the first time around, the logical reasoning is that part of his people woke up, which means that the problem doesn't lie with HIS supporters, it lies within our party.

              This man who is President today, was not considered benign or flaccid by our side; he was/is considered the WORST President in our lifetime, if not history. So for anyone on our side to stay home because Ron Paul wasn't the nominee, or because Romney was Mormon, or because he ran an investment fund, or any other reason besides you thought he could be worse was pure folly.

              Yourself and Tsquare; amongst many others on here always say that elections have consequences. I agree, and that is just as true for those who now complain, even if they didn't vote, or voted for someone who couldn't win. They either by not voting, or wasting their vote out of spite, helped elect the WORST President in our lifetime to a second term. These people had MORE to do with Obysmal getting re-elected than the democrats did, and now they bitch.

              If their thought process continues along these same lines, we will next end up with Hillary who is no more than Obysmal in a pants suit. This of course might make Jimmy Carter happy, since that would move him down from number 2, to number 3 worst, but I seriously doubt our country could survive.

              I want a conservative in office, and I will redouble my efforts to help one win the GOP nomination. But should my guy lose, I will support any candidate from any faction from the GOP over Hillary. If these other voters are going to take their vote and go home again, please have them let the rest of us know so we don't waste our time advance please. I will go along with the program of "their way or the highway," as long as when Hilly gets coronated with Bill at her side, none of them are allowed to bitch for 4 years about anything they do, including changing Obysmalcare into single payersystem, finishing what Obysmal started, transferring the rest of our wealth, to those who did not earn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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              • #22
                Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                Originally posted by reality View Post
                Just curious, who was the "true conservative" in those races and why?
                herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry (well, at least closer than Romney)...

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                • #23
                  Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                  Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                  herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry (well, at least closer than Romney)...
                  Those bozos?


                  That's why the GOP loses.

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                  • #24
                    Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                    Romney was not a Conservative and he lost the election because many many Conservatives stayed home.
                    only idiots stay home on election day. they are as much a part of the problem as some filthy hippies I know who refuse to vote. They should all of them, every SINGLE ONE, be taken out back and horsewhipped bloody.

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                    • #25
                      Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                      Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                      herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry (well, at least closer than Romney)...
                      hermain cain I would've voted for. He had real business experience. Too bad about all those scandals (which means he really didn't hold your values to begin with you know ) Rick Perry I have experienced QUITE enough of thank you. And his debate performance should've shown you he was useless. Little lord fontleroy
                      Bachmann: SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! Absolutely NOT. I'd vote for PALIN before bachmann. She was PURE social con.

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                        Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                        Originally posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
                        Those bozos?


                        That's why the GOP loses.
                        And what pray tell made Herman Cain a bozo?

                        The Democrats came up with a solution that works. Do nothing but lie, promise the moon, and have no morals. Tell a lie often enough, idiots will believe it.

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                        • #27
                          Re: CNN/ORC Poll: Majority Believes Obama Dishonest, Ineffective

                          Originally posted by 9aces View Post
                          And what pray tell made Herman Cain a bozo?
                          When asked about the then current situation in Lybia, Herman Cain clearly had no clue what was going on.

                          See for yourself:

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