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  • #16
    Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

    Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
    Eh, the dude is a tool, imo. What she did was not a big deal.
    Do you know a judge? If so, ask him (her) what she thinks.

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    • #17
      Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

      Originally posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
      As long as what you do in front of a judge isn't deemed contempt of court then its not a crime. However, judges have great leeway in how harshly they set the terms for various infractions. In some cases there are published maximum penalties but judges often have great leeway in making the actual penalty far less harsh than the maximum allowed. Flipping off a judge or being a smartass, etc is simply going to make sure the judge sets the penalties a lot closer to the maximum than he would if you were polite, deferring, apologetic and genuinely come across as someone who is sorry for their actions.

      If sentencing/bonds/etc were simply set in stone, then we wouldn't need judges, computers could do the sentencing.
      Flipping a judge off after doubling the bail amount was warranted. That's a direct violation of the 8th Amendment if I'm not mistaken. What kind of asshole gives someone a $5000 bail, then brings them back after she says, "adios" and then doubles it to $10000? He fucking instigated and illicit'd that response from her. He should have had far worse coming to him but got off easy with just the bird being flipped at him. He lost his appeal to authority the moment he doubled the bail amount.

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      • #18
        Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

        Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
        His name is Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat, and he is a judge in the Criminal Division of the Eleventh Circuit Court in Florida.

        You can contact him through the Court:

        Lawson E. Thomas Courthouse Center
        175 NW 1st Ave Suite 3016
        Miami, FL 33128
        Telephone: 305-349-7000

        Be sure and let him know he should "sleep with one eye open", tough guy. I'm sure he'll be impressed.
        Thanks. I'll be sure give him a piece of my mind after I research him and his affiliations.

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        • #19
          Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

          I'm still laughing at the idiot ditz's reaction when he gave her time in the pokey.

          Too funny!

          Good for Judge Rodriguez-Chomat! WE need more of that kind of judicial confidence.

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          • #20
            Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

            Originally posted by RRAHH View Post
            Flipping a judge off after doubling the bail amount was warranted. That's a direct violation of the 8th Amendment if I'm not mistaken. What kind of asshole gives someone a $5000 bail, then brings them back after she says, "adios" and then doubles it to $10000? He fucking instigated and illicit'd that response from her. He should have had far worse coming to him but got off easy with just the bird being flipped at him. He lost his appeal to authority the moment he doubled the bail amount.
            Define "excessive."

            Poor little girl didn't realize the judge has near autonomy when setting bail: He's going to set it at a level that more strongly assures the perp will return to the court. Baby girl obviously wasn't taking the 5K seriously so he set it at a new level that assured him she would not skip out.

            When you write him, please be sure to tell him why he should bother with what you want. I'm certain he doesn't know ... or care.

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            • #21
              Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

              Originally posted by RRAHH View Post
              Flipping a judge off after doubling the bail amount was warranted. That's a direct violation of the 8th Amendment if I'm not mistaken.
              You are, in fact, mistaken.

              The judge has broad judicial discretion to set bail. Bail is set to ensure that the defendant appears for trial. The judge made a determination, based upon her flippant attitude, that she was not taking the matter seriously, and he adjusted her bail accordingly. This is completely within the judge's discretion.

              Originally posted by RRAHH View Post
              What kind of asshole gives someone a $5000 bail, then brings them back after she says, "adios" and then doubles it to $10000? He fucking instigated and illicit'd that response from her. He should have had far worse coming to him but got off easy with just the bird being flipped at him. He lost his appeal to authority the moment he doubled the bail amount.
              Utter nonsense. She was flippant the entire time, and clearly was not taking the matter seriously.

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              • #22
                Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                Originally posted by RRAHH View Post
                Thanks. I'll be sure give him a piece of my mind after I research him and his affiliations.
                Make sure to include the threat, so he'll know how serious you are.

                Let us know how that works out for you....

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                • #23
                  Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                  Here jail time has been removed:

                  Penelope Soto apologizes for flipping off Judge Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat | wtsp.com

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                  • #24
                    Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                    Originally posted by ThorHammer View Post
                    Xanax and alcohol. That's fun in the safety of your own home. In front of a judge, not so much.

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                    • #25
                      Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                      There is so much wrong going on here.

                      First off, when I watched the video, I was trying to figure out in what country this took place. Off camera, there is a woman (prosecuting attorney) speaking, and a man (public defense attorney) speaking, who are obviously Americans. But between the heavy accent of the judge, and the slight accent of the defendant, my mind kept trying to figure out where exactly, would two American attorneys appear in a courtroom, where English was obviously the second language of the judge, and less obviously the second language of the defendant, and yet everyone was speaking English? I could barely understand the judge at times. Call me a racist if you must, but if I appear in a courtroom anywhere on U.S. soil, I expect the judge to actually be able to clearly speak English.

                      Further, since Spanish is clearly the Judge's native tongue, and it is also obvious that the defendant speaks Spanish, how is she out of order for saying, "Adios" after the judge waves and says, "Bye bye"?

                      She obviously has little clue as to what is happening (drugs tend to impair mental faculties), but just who the hell does the judge think that he is? He (who does this every working day of his life, and understands how it goes) can be far less than serious by waving and saying, "Bye bye", but when she (who has never been in a courtroom) realizes that the hearing is now over, and responds in kind by saying, "Adios", he blows a gasket and doubles her bail?

                      I don't actually know which is worse: the blatant abuse of power by a U.S. judge (whose English is, at times, barely understandable), or the rampant approval of same by multiple forum participants.

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                      • #26
                        Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                        Wait... I just realized that this is in the "Just for Fun" section.

                        I apologize for my previous post, and most of the rest of you should, too.

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                        • #27
                          Re: So the next time you're in front of a judge....

                          Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                          I'm still laughing at the idiot ditz's reaction when he gave her time in the pokey.

                          Too funny!

                          Good for Judge Rodriguez-Chomat! WE need more of that kind of judicial confidence.
                          Yeah, because the tax payers can afford to pay for people to be sent to jail frivolously...

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