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    I saw that there is still no thread about this, in spite of day four of the games coming up (including the start of the group that also the US is in).
    So what are your opinions, hopes, predictions for the tournament ? Which teams are you betting on ? Spain already got thrashed like no acting World champion in the history of the World Cup before ( by the Netherlands), Brazil and Argentina have stumbled to victory over Bosnia-Herzegowina ( Argentina), and Croatia (Brazil), and have not really shown their class. A big pleasant surprise has been England, who put up a formidable fight with plenty of young players against Italy (that were still the better team, but not by an extremely wide margin). France national team has not been in extremely good shape recently and still has the shadow of its dismal performance in South Africa 2010 hanging over it, still victory against Honduras was predictable . It will be interesting though how France does against stronger enemies. Also some nobodies, Colombia and Costa Rica, but also Switzerland and Ivory Coast f.e. have demonstrated to have squads worth watching out for this time. Uruguay, Australia, Greece, Cameroon, and also Spain (that most "experts" had on their list of favourites before the Netherlands game) are clear candidates to fly home early (Spain f.e. needs to score quite a lot of goals to maintain a chance). For Bosnia, Ecuador, Japan and espcially Croatia remaining is still reasonably possible, based on their performances in spite of loosing their games. Chile won lucky by one goal against Australia, but it has the Netherlands coming up, who have just trashed Spain.
    Today though the last of the "all-time favourites", Germany, enters the tournament, playing Portugal. And the US is playing Ghana tomorrow, n the same group. On June 26th the US, coached by Germanys ex-national coach and world cup winner 1990 Jrgen Klinsmann will meet Germany, coached by Klinsmanns former assistant Joachim Lw. And on 23rd Portugal.
    Still coming up the next days are Iran, Nigeria, South Korea, Algeria, Russia, and the highly rated Belgians, who may be interesting to watch.

    For the Germany/Portugal game there is a prediction by Englands ex-keeper David James :

    Ronaldo’s contribution at the World Cup will be eagerly awaited, with Portugal’s match against Germany on Monday billed as one of the highlights of the group stages. As a goalkeeper what makes Ronaldo so difficult to play against is his unpredictability. He possesses every wonderful footballing attribute you can think of and you never know which one he is going to use next. When you are sat in the opposition dressing room and you hear his name read out on the teamsheet it is daunting........

    ......Talismanic players can also be predictable players. Nullify that threat and you can nullify the whole team. Hence the argument for making use of England’s other strikers. Italy will know Rooney’s game inside out, but Rickie Lambert’s? Now that’s a different kettle of fish. For Ronaldo and Messi the world will be focused on their every move. Their opposition will have rehearsed how to deal with them. Think Portugal and you think of Ronaldo. Think Argentina and you think of Messi.

    Germany is the antithesis of all that. When you think of Germany you don’t think of a single player, you think of the team. Don’t believe me? Try this test: which World Cup player is on the verge of making history as the highest goalscorer of all time, overtaking Brazil’s Ronaldo? The answer: Miroslav Klose. The 36-year-old is not a global superstar, he does not model underwear, he does not have a personalised brand. But he’s very effective at a World Cup. An incredible 14 goals in 19 World Cup finals matches, one goal short of Ronaldo’s tally, should make Klose a name to remember. But when England played Germany in South Africa no one said: “Focus on Miroslav Klose, he’s dangerous.” It was all about the young talent in the team. Now Klose is going to his fourth World Cup, not as a bit-part player, but as one of only two strikers, central to the team.

    On Monday, Portugal against Germany will be the talisman versus the ultimate team. In theory, trying to contain an individual should be a lot easier than trying to contain a team.

    On such a huge stage I predict that Ronaldo will try extra hard to be the star. Because of that Germany will nullify him and win the game. I’m adding just one caveat, however. Just like in 2008, Ronaldo always has the capacity to surprise me.

    on the upcoming US game :
    Last edited by Voland; 06-16-2014, 01:36 AM.

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    So Germany has not just beaten highly rated Portugal, they have trashed them very badly and underlined that they are a serious title candidate. 4 : 0 is a result that makes most questions and excuses dispensable. For the US thats not a bad result as well by the way, since it increases the likelihood of the US team to reach the knockout stage, in case the US win their games and loose against Germany with a lower margin than the Portuguese (or win of course ).

    The US are playing Ghana right now :


    • #3
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      Just what is a world cup?


      • #4
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        Doesn't look like a cup to me.

        Nevertheless, it is my civic duty to congratulate Team USA on their 2-1 win over Ghana.


        • #5
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          Originally posted by Commodore View Post
          Doesn't look like a cup to me.

          Nevertheless, it is my civic duty to congratulate Team USA on their 2-1 win over Ghana.

          What's a Ghana?


          • #6
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            Originally posted by tsquare View Post

            What's a Ghana?
            A Bostonian adverb, referring to a future activity.

            "Hey, you ghana get in the cahh or what?"
            Last edited by Commodore; 06-16-2014, 06:49 PM.


            • #7
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              Originally posted by Commodore View Post
              A Bostonian adverb, referring to a future activity.

              "Hey, you ghana get in the cahh or what?"
              Ahhh... well... okay then.


              • #8
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                England always wanted to be just like Spain for all those years .... NOW they are almost there !!!


                • #9
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                  I thought England might hold that game, but that defense sure went to shit in the last 15-20 minutes of the game. That 84th minute shot by Suarez was fantastic but the defense let him by without much challenge.


                  • #10
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                    Wow, Italy loosing against Costa Rica ( that is now clear group winner), and has to compete with Uruguay for the second position. This World Cup has no shortage of surprises. France vs. Switzerland is coming up, and tomorrow Germany vs. Ghana. It will be interesting to see wether they can keep the level of the Portugal game (4:0).


                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
                      I thought England might hold that game, but that defense sure went to shit in the last 15-20 minutes of the game. That 84th minute shot by Suarez was fantastic but the defense let him by without much challenge.
                      Even though we're out I thought we played the best football I've seen England play in years. For the last 5 years or so England have been without a doubt the dullest team on Earth to watch and they specialised in passing between defenders until supporters almost died from the sheer boredom of it all. They even managed the rather spectacular trick of making scoring goals dull. None of the players played anywhere near what they did for the clubs they play for.
                      This time they actually decided to get in the opposition half and do some entertaining stuff with young players and make me not want to kill myself which is a real improvement. Even in defeat we are a better team now and I have for the first time in ages some sliver of hope for England.
                      Last edited by Chloe; 06-24-2014, 10:44 AM. Reason: Gambling / betting reference.


                      • #12
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                        Iran didn't deserve to lose that. They played wonderfully and gave Argentina a fantastic game.


                        • #13
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                          Iran was the better team. Argentina was a big disappointment.


                          • #14
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                            Agreed... watching Germany and Ghana now.


                            • #15
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                              Germany vs. Ghana was one of the most exciting games so far (for me). Two very diverse (obviously), yet formidable teams putting up a formidable (yet remarkably fair) fight till the last minute. A fight that each side could have won, therefore the draw in the end is a fair result. Germany probably made more tactical errors than against Portugal, and the german players were obviously not used to the climate in equatorial Brazil, while Ghana was already fighting for remaining in the tournament. The result however means that Germany still comfortably leads the group, while for Ghana one point may not be enough, if the US win against Portugal as well and Germany next Thursday against the US.
                              This game has also seen a record though : The second german goal was shot by Miroslav Klose, who has caught up with Brazils Ronaldo as most sucessful World Cup scorer of all time (15 goals). He is also together with Brazils Pele and another fellow german, Uwe Seeler, one out of only three players to have scored in four World Cups :